espaeth
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1 edit | Any good electrical contractor will tell you...
it's really important to ground your non-conductive glass transport cabling.  |
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bogey780
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Here | Makes me wonder...
What did they do wrong? Was it a quibble such as grounding to the meter pan versus grounding to the bus or better?
I'll need to read more about it. |
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espaeth
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Minneapolis, MN | I would guess the inside coax back to the ONT might not be properly grounded in some installs. |
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bogey780
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Reading the attachment in the complaint it seems the issues they cite are with workers being killed by electricity while installing FiOS or FiOS related equipment.
I'm not sure how revisiting each job will help. It's an issue with internal safety practices and enforcement. |
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said by timesunion.com :
Verizon spokesman John Bonomo said"...the bottom line is we put safety first," Bonomo added. "We are confident that our FiOS installation procedures are in compliance with prescribed standards. In more than four years of installing FiOS, there have been no problems resulting from our installation practices."
Good to know that setting houses and apartment buildings on fire no longer counts as a problem.
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GeekGirl1
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3 edits | Doesn't everyone check the install?
I've got my ONT installed in my basement. Verizon ran the ONT ground wire to an ungrounded workbox near the install. After they left, I re-ran the wire to the same cold water pipe that's used for my service entrance ground.
There are a threads ad-nauseum in the Verizon FiOS TV and Verizon FiOS Fiber Optics forums about grounding. My postings about this install are in the mix, all is OK.
Bottom line is that it's Verizon standard procedure to ground the ONT. Of course the fiber is plastic, but you have to realize that you are connecting to other services such as coax cable and phone lines that require proper grounding- hence the need to ground the ONT. |
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brainlessdog
join:2005-11-30
Portsmouth, NH | Blame it on Productivity
Grounding the ONT properly is the techs responsibility. Verizon management hammered the techs to get the jobs done faster. I am sure that skipping the ground wire is done all the time in order to speed up installations. |
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brainlessdog
join:2005-11-30
Portsmouth, NH | reply to espaeth
Re: Any good electrical contractor will tell you...
It is not the fiber that needs grounding, it is the electronics in the ONT. Get a clue. |
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idjk
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In telco installation "always time to do it right the 2nd time " is a standard theme but bonding the sheath is important because lack of bond can hurt you. If you were up a pole a grabbed an non-bonded line the induced charge from overhead power lines can knock your dick in the dirt-I've been there with old "dead" open wire out in the burbs.
One wonders who is funding People's Production House- the cable tv people maybe?? |
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wev567
join:2006-02-25
Pittsburgh, PA | reply to espaeth
Re: Any good electrical contractor will tell you...
Most fiber has metallic mesh in the sheathing. |
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meh37
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Re: no problems....at all?
I think he's just saying:
(1) They don't practice drilling through electrical conduit during "installer classes".
(2) They expect their installers to be practiced enough to not drill through electrical conduit.
1? 2? both? neither? |
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bbskeptic
join:2005-09-12
Burlington, VT | reply to brainlessdog
Re: Any good electrical contractor will tell you...
The electronics in the ONT are powered by AC from the house...which is.. duh... grounded |
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bbskeptic
join:2005-09-12
Burlington, VT | reply to wev567
Not in the drop cable |
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No to ESPN
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| Permits and Inspectors?
I guess no permits need to pulled for installation of these devices. Building inspector or master electrician is supposed to inspect and sign off before power is turned on. If this is not done then the agency that is not requiring final inspection takes responsibility for injuries in court of law. |
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moonpuppy
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Re: Doesn't everyone check the install?
said by GeekGirl1  :I've got my ONT installed in my basement. Verizon ran the ONT ground wire to an ungrounded workbox near the install. After they left, I re-ran the wire to the same cold water pipe that's used for my service entrance ground. There are a threads ad-nauseum in the Verizon FiOS TV and Verizon FiOS Fiber Optics forums about grounding. My postings about this install are in the mix, all is OK. Bottom line is that it's Verizon standard procedure to ground the ONT. Of course the fiber is plastic, but you have to realize that you are connecting to other services such as coax cable and phone lines that require proper grounding- hence the need to ground the ONT. Problem is not many people are aware equipment needs to be grounded much less how to do it properly. |
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electric man
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Re: Permits and Inspectors?
Before installing any additions to anything an enginner and inspector soppose to approve the build some states have different electric codes. |
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elbm
join:2000-08-03
Reisterstown, MD
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| ONTs do not require grounding
The specs from the manufacture do not require the ont be grounded. It is a Verizon M&P that requires grounding. The ont is powered by dc from a transformer and the optical drop is non-metallic. There is no real reason to ground the ont other than an over zealous M&P. |
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Re: Bonding
said by idjk :
One wonders who is funding People's Production House- the cable tv people maybe??
Check out »peoplesproductionhouse.org for more, although it may not give deep enough details to answer your question. That may need someone to put two and two together.
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GeekGirl1
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1 edit | reply to elbm
Re: ONTs do not require grounding
Sorry, no. Just search the forums and you'll get a lot of reasons to do it. Like here: »What needs to be grounded at install?. You have to connect the ONT to other services like coax cable, ethernet, and phone lines which need the ground. |
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espaeth
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Re: Any good electrical contractor will tell you...
said by brainlessdog :It is not the fiber that needs grounding, it is the electronics in the ONT. Get a clue. There was a smiley at the end. It's Friday, relax a little and take a joke. |
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