jc100
join:2002-04-10
1 edit | Must be a slow news day
Wasn't this to be expected. Next up, the Business Software Alliance (BSA). These companies will sue their customers into poverty, if they could. I think these days people often download just to say I did, more so the need to. Sometimes pissing everyone off, serves to alienate the rest. There's something called a moderate stance on things. Maybe these guys should learn that. The heavy handed technique doesn't win you friends or supporters. It just makes everyone mad and despise your methodology. |
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Kearnstd
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| No CD cracks
i wonder if they would chase after these, since while they can be used by pirates they are also used but huge numbers of people who are lined up at the gamestop release day money in hand.
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EPS
join:2008-02-13
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| Hm
Isn't there already a crackdown on gaming piracy? Try to find Nintendo Entertainment System (or other "classic" gaming systems) ROMs today compared with a decade ago, many websites have closed down or gone over to BitTorrent, while in the past even mainstream gaming websites sometimes had ROMs.
Of course, none of this should imply that I have ever used a ROM illegally- it's just something I heard, I swear...  |
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Smith6612
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2 edits | DRM-enabled games...
Who these days would want to download a game fully into our hard drive and activate a CD/DVD key, just to have to insert it every time you want to play the game? Now, I use Steam and I have no problem with Steam based DRM as I like using Steam in the first place (and it's very loose on what you can do as well!), but honestly, the games I'd have to put a CD in for every time to play, it gets annoying especially if I lose the disk, and while I'd love to download a no-CD crack for something I had bought, I just don't feel like doing it for this same reason this article mentioned.
Honestly, I'd seriously wait several years until companies release No-CD patches for their own games. Most recently Bungie released a No-CD patch for both Halo: Combat Evolved and Halo: Custom Edition via the game's auto update and I'm glad they did, as it's a lot quicker and a lot more convenient than having to dig another game out of my DVD drive, put a game in, wait for it to spin up, open the game, and wait for it to read data off of the disk. Halo 2, thankfully runs entirely off of the HDD. Once registered with Microsoft, it's free to use without the CD.
By the way, isn't most video game piracy because people want to try the game out since the demos ususally suck? |
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cornelius785
join:2006-10-26
Worcester, MA | Do we have a new member of the MAFIA?
If they take up the tactics of the current MAFIA (riaa + mpaa) we could have a new member. What next? The TV giants jumping on ship? perhaps obama+biden jumping on to the MAFIA bandwagon in a not too distant future? |
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snipper_cr
join:2002-01-22
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I just hate having to insert a CD to have to validate the game which takes a long time anyways. If it needed the CD for game data, thats one thing but I prefer installs that puts everything on the computer for faster speed.
The music industry is starting to see that DRM is not liked and people prefer DRM-free media. Hopefully the gaming industry will follow the same road.
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BIGMIKE
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Re: Must be a slow news day
Game Developer Asks To Hear From Pirates
"Indie game developer Cliff Harris has long waged war against games piracy, but has issued a call to pirates to tell him why he is wrong. Assuming that developers are missing out on potential sales from disgruntled pirates, Cliff wants to hear specifically from people who have pirated his games. Not to criticize or lecture them, but to answer a simple question. Why? The reasons people give for copyright infringement/piracy are many and varied, but much of the debate has centred around music and movies, with big 'Triple-A' games an occasional consideration. With specific application to the world of small budget 'indie' games like those Cliff makes, he wants to know the thought processes behind people pirating the games. What puts people off buying? Is it quality, cost, DRM, ease of access? Is there anything that can be done to convert those people to buyers? While many pirates often make good general points about the reasons for the widespread pirating of PC games, it's unusual to get a chance to address specific developers with specific reasons. If you knew 100% that the developer would read your email explaining why you pirated their game, what would you say? »yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=···from=rss |
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| Pirated Games really is not the same
Usually, pirated games are stripped down versions. They lack the multiplayer aspects, due to license validation, etc, they lack the documentation, story, etc and packaging. Sometimes they even lack parts of the game itself.
Unlike music or movies, I think much of the pirates software never actually gets used at all. It may be installed and looked at once or twice, or it may never be installed.
Also, I feel that when someone does copy a game, and they like it, they usually end up buying the retail version so they can play it fully or online. If they don't like it, they are either erased or burned off on some archive DVD to sit gathering dust never to be touched again.
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anonym111
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I think the RIAA already lost not won. Cause other day my friend suggested i listen to some youtube music video. I asked him, informed him, that I will not listen to any RIAA released content. I also explained the cause to the "T." I said since you already have listened to the song. You may want to let me know if the uploader to youtube. Attached what label etc it is. He did not so i did not visit the video. Cause anything RIAA is a no / no on my list. So if I refuse to listen to their stuff. Eh it is much worse that now word is spreading. I don't go I run away from anything RIAA. And it makes me feel very proud on the inside I don't support hurting anyone. 
As for games I don't play much anymore unless something of immense interest. The gaming industry needs to evolve not kill itself. Hope they made a wise choice in hiring the same people. |
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brianiscool
join:2000-08-16
Miami, FL | wow
The PC Gaming market is already dying. This will put the nail in the coffin. |
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Smith6612
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Re: CD Val
They are starting to follow... slightly. Bungie last week or two weeks ago released a No-CD Patch for Halo: Combat Evolved and Halo Custom Edition for the PC. No more having to insert my CD just to play the game by launching it via Steam. |
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hacker90
join:2005-09-01
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Re: DRM-enabled games...
said by Smith6612  :By the way, isn't most video game piracy because people want to try the game out since the demos ususally suck? That in my case would be true for some games. Civ4 for eample. I downloaded it to try it back when it was released in October of 05. Got my a copy later that year for Christmas. CoH is another example of this, I just picked up the gold edition from newegg. It also has to involve the persons view on getting all the games in a pack or individual. |
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KrK
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Re: wow
Sad thing is, the best gaming platform of all is the PC.
It can do things the consoles can't because the consoles are frozen in time from the time they are released until the next one comes out. PC's can be upgraded regularly, and have the easiest online multiplayer.
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BabyBear
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said by brianiscool :The PC Gaming market is already dying. This will put the nail in the coffin. 
Yeah and the war on drugs will end illegal drug use. |
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sivran
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Re: Hm
RIP, emux.com, the best emu/rom site ever to have existed. None topped it then or now.  |
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sivran
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Re: Pirated Games really is not the same
Indeed.
I downloaded Baldur's Gate II. Burned it (all four CDs). Stuck it in my CD holder where's been ever since. Figured I'd install it once I finished the first one. Never finished it. Course, now I have a "legit" copy -- my friend gave me his copy of it.
Same deal with Majesty. Even though I could've just borrowed it, I pirated it. Never installed it. The ISO sits on my hard drive. I have played it before -- borrowed it from a friend once, but my computer at the time was quite underpowered and couldn't properly play it.
The games I've bought because of piracy are few, the games I've pirated, hated, and erased are many. Some might say, "well, download a demo!" To that, I say, "Far Cry." I would have bought it based on the demo. I downloaded the game, and discovered that the demo covered pretty much the only fun part of the game (IMO). Whew.
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jc100
join:2002-04-10
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Re: Must be a slow news day
I'm not an avid gamer, but I HAVE bought several games in past. Star Craft, Counter Strike, Counter Strike Source, War Craft, etc. I have also bought loads of software too. Yet, my persona; opinion on why I've also downloaded stuff is as follows. I get sick of the price gauging that often takes place for software and games. I know their are development costs and people to pay, but let's be realistic. Companies often OVERLY INFLATE items. Look at a music CD. Most have 1 or 2 good songs, but are 20 dollars. Why do you think people now are wiling to go to the buy per song model? Itunes is a MEGA HIT.
People want to buy what they like, and not be gauged for excess. Personally, I'll tell you where I do buy from for games, Valve. Steam has got the right idea about Downloading Games for 10 or 20 dollars. Why is this smart, well I got the game On my computer and don't have to pay for the packaging, distribution, and cost of a hard copy. This cuts the price in half or more on a lot of things. Sure, I think Valve needs to chop more off the actual price for some stuff bought online. I mean, you aren't given a hard copy and the perks as said above. Still, they are migrating to the right Mindset. Tailor to the needs of customers, and cut out the frivilous crap, and you get people to spend money. |
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Kearnstd
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games are generally the rare software that is worth its price. MS has no need to charge $300 for windows and $400 for office, they do because they can. same as Adobe charging over a grand for much of theirs(i bet photoshop piracy would greatly decline if it where sold for 49.95 at bestbuy).
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Kearnstd
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Re: DRM-enabled games...
DRM requiring the CD is a major drive for pirates, its not just getting it free but there are plenty of people who pirate a copy with the legit box sitting on their desk. the pirated copy lets them run off the HDD.
however if you buy it and then download a version without the CD check its not really piracy, because you did give your money at the store.
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jc100
join:2002-04-10 | reply to Kearnstd
Re: Must be a slow news day
Agreed. Hell Maya Unlimited is 10,000 dollars! I mean really? Software that costs as much as a Car? |
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