curls310
join:2007-09-26
Hillsdale, NJ | FU TWC
Glad to not live in an area disserviced by them. |
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en102
Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA | TiVO makes use of Time Warner's network
TiVO has little to stand on.
What's next... me suing TiVO for not working with analog after Feb 2009 or not working with OTA boxes ?
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Anonymous_
Anonymous
Premium
join:2004-06-21
127.0.0.1
clubs:
1 edit | lol
what about the CAPS
will they drop the internet caps if they do SDV
what happions if all the channel slots are being used
do i get an error saying
channel can not be displayed? |
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pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
Premium
join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD
 ·Comcast
| reply to en102
Re: TiVO makes use of Time Warner's network
said by en102  :TiVO has little to stand on. Only if TWC was not advertising these devices as being supported in any official capacity. If that is the case the fine should be $0.
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Mr Matt
join:2008-01-29
Eustis, FL
·Comcast
 ·Embarq
|  I think that $7,500.00 is a fine fine.
 I think that $7,500.00 is a fine fine as long as Time Warner is fined $7,500.00 for every subscriber that has lost the use of their TiVO. Time Warner should also be required to provide a DVR at no cost to any subscriber that has lost the use of their TiVO until the new interface device is made available. |
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hayabusa3303
Over 200 mph
Premium
join:2005-06-29
clubs: | one more way.
to screw the customer has hard as you can and get away with it. |
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EPS
join:2008-02-13
Hingham, MA | Bah
Complain when they don't upgrade their network, complain when they do upgrade their network...
I thought Motorola had a box that made TiVo compatible with SDV? Is this actually not out yet, or is this just referring to Cisco cable systems? |
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jchambers28
join:2007-05-12
Alma, AR | glad I moved
glad I moved to a cox area |
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BillRoland
Premium
join:2001-01-21
Ocala, FL
clubs:
·Cox HSI
| reply to en102
Re: TiVO makes use of Time Warner's network
said by en102 :TiVO has little to stand on. What's next... me suing TiVO for not working with analog after Feb 2009 or not working with OTA boxes ? I'm sure we could find a federal judge out there who could find somewhere in the Constitution that TiVO is a Constitutional right.
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Dogfather
Premium
join:2007-12-26
Laguna Hills, CA | reply to jchambers28
Re: glad I moved
Why? Cox is deploying SDV too. |
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krazymon2
join:2008-01-13
Coraopolis, PA
·Comcast
| Not TWs Fault
I really don't see why its TWs responsible if equipment that YOU BOUGHT doesn't work on their system. Systems are changed and updated to benefit not only the company but the consumer in the long run. The Tivos that people purchased don't have the right technology to adapt. If anything Tivo themselves are at fault for not having the hardware to THEIR customers to handle SDV. |
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nukscull
@rr.com | reply to Anonymous_
Re: lol
SDV has nothing to do with adding Internet bandwidth at this point.
It is for adding new HD channels to compete with Satellite and FiOS, to which TWC is way behind with HD channel offerings. |
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tiger72
SexaT duorP
Premium
join:2001-03-28
Saint Louis, MO
clubs: | reply to curls310
Re: FU TWC
Sucks to be you. Thanks to SDV technology, i am happily getting new HD channels. |
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skuv
@rr.com
| So...
Unless EVERY channel is on SDV, the TiVo is far from useless.
Why such sensationalism?
And TiVo isn't excepted from all the blame, since they actively pushed their product, knowing that 2-way communication would be necessary at some point. TiVo even made an updated TiVo HD model after the Series 3, knowing full well that SDV already existed.
But I do agree with the fine because people lost some channels without much notice. But their TiVos certainly aren't useless.
Hopefully the 2-way adapter will be available by the time TWC has deployed SDV in more areas and added more HD channels because of it. |
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DataDoc
My avatar looks like me, if I was 2D.
Premium
join:2000-05-14
Greenville, NC
·Suddenlink
| reply to Mr Matt
Re: I think that $7,500.00 is a fine fine.
said by Mr Matt : I think that $7,500.00 is a fine fine as long as Time Warner is fined $7,500.00 for every subscriber that has lost the use of their TiVO. |
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gqkull
Premium
join:2004-04-06
Round Rock, TX
clubs:
| reply to krazymon2
Re: Not TWs Fault
So What happens when you have used it for a year, then TWC decides to change the way you watch cable. Kind of sucks to have that kind of investment taken away from you, so they can add additional offering. Sure great for the additional offerings, but why not allow the consumer to help to dictate what channels would be SDV. To take away channels without notice, then com back and delay the deployment for any sort of resolution, oh yea, then use their proprietary software based DVR, with little advantages, in other words, well you can do this and like it or no to those channels we chose to remove... |
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tubbynet
reminds me of the danse russe
Premium
join:2008-01-16
Chandler, AZ
·Cox HSI
 ·Callcentric
 ·Sprint Mobile Broa..
·FrontierNet Intern..
1 edit | reply to krazymon2
said by krazymon2 :
I really don't see why its TWs responsible if equipment that YOU BOUGHT doesn't work on their system. Systems are changed and updated to benefit not only the company but the consumer in the long run. The Tivos that people purchased don't have the right technology to adapt. If anything Tivo themselves are at fault for not having the hardware to THEIR customers to handle SDV.
ordinarily, this would be a valid point, however the article from lightreading gives the following point...
said by LightReading.com :
The MSO migrated some channels to its switched digital video (SDV) platform on Sept. 24, 2007. According to the FCC, Oceanic willfully violated a rule requiring it to give 30-day advance written notice to the Hawaii Department of Commerce and Consumer Affairs, Cable Television Division.
this means that tw did not even follow regulatory guidlines when performing network changes. if this was change notice was not communicated to the proper overseeing body, then it is pretty safe to assume that this change was not communicated to the customer. some information should have been communicated to the customers and the options should have been outlined.
even though the fix was due out by now and has been delayed for whatever reason, the information should have been passed out to those that need to know and are *directly* affected.
besides, there is this whole freedom of choice that everyone seems to want.
q. |
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jmn1207
Premium
join:2000-07-19
Reston, VA
 ·Verizon FIOS
| reply to EPS
Re: Bah
said by EPS :Complain when they don't upgrade their network, complain when they do upgrade their network... I think the perception many of us share is that the cable companies are not upgrading as much as they are thinly spreading available resources around.
The headlines in many tech news sites and publications are continually making us aware of these seemingly artificial attempts to upgrade our services. Our HD television is full of artifacts and seemingly compressed far too much. It seems as if too many channels are sharing too little bandwidth. Talk of throttling our internet speeds and placing caps on our total usage is heating up in several discussion threads.
They are redistributing existing resources rather than truly providing customers with legitimate upgrades. The same carrot is simply being chopped up into smaller pieces. The only problem is that this carrot no longer feeds all of us anymore, so it is becoming more obvious to us that they sorely lack in infrastructure and support. |
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insomniac84
join:2002-01-03
Schererville, IN | reply to en102
Re: TiVO makes use of Time Warner's network
The problem is that they have to offer cable card service by law. So they "updated" their technologies and now want people to rent extra equipment cable card was supposed to remove the need for. |
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krazymon2
join:2008-01-13
Coraopolis, PA
·Comcast
| reply to gqkull
Re: Not TWs Fault
I am saying its not their responsibility to make sure that every single box on the market works with their system. The simple fact is Tivo and others knew this was going to be on the market soon and didn't make the adjustments for their customers. And like any investment maybe people should have looked into what they were buying and realized Hey this might not work soon because changes are happening that Tivo hasn't adjusted for. |
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