en102
Canadian, eh?
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Valencia, CA | AT&T ,,, your money, delivered to the fund raisers
All industries have their lobbiests, and will pump lots of money into political favors in their best interests... its capitalism at its finest.
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HiDesert
join:2008-08-17
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This was dead wrong.. A total violation of the 4th amendment. The democrats are no better then the Bush admin. I still can't believe they did this. At least my Telco Qwest did not allow illegal wiretaps. And reading about these parties really burns me up. What corruption. |
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tiger72
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| Really? You really can't believe they did this?
Partisanship has only hidden the reality of politics. Each side points and cries "THEY are horrible!". When it comes down to it, both parties do the same crap, just under different banners.
Stop voting (D)
Stop voting (R)
Vote on the issues, and this will stop. Until then, it'll continue to be business as usual.
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join:2001-04-17
Addison, IL | 1984
Welcome to Big Brother. They will chip away at all our freedoms in the name of protecting us. Who will protect us from them? |
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HiDesert
join:2008-08-17
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Re: AT&T ,,, your money, delivered to the fund raisers
said by en102  :All industries have their lobbiests, and will pump lots of money into political favors in their best interests... its capitalism at its finest. Thats true. However, this case is a bit different being they violated the 4th amendment and broke the law. The telcos crossed the grey line on this one. And they got lucky they were let off the hook. This is a really sad state of affairs for our constitution. And is also where I lost all respect for Obama. I have little faith anymore for our federal government. |
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TKJunkMail
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|  Pols will NEVER pass on chance to collect re-election money
The only way to gain access to a politician is thru money or thru large organizations(NRA, AARP, NAACP, etc., etc.) representing lots of voters. It has been that way in the U.S. Congress since 1800 and no laws are ever going to change that. The "Golden Rule" applies here and around the world.
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jimbo2150
join:2004-05-10
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Re: "a slew of private corporate-sponsored parties"
said by tiger72 :Stop voting (D) Stop voting (R) Who would you recommend then? If you don't vote D and don't vote R, you are not left with much. You suggest no one be president? Open office? ;P |
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Austinloop
join:2001-08-19
Austin, TX | Why are you here?
I looked at the video attached and I can see why people would not provide answers to the "reporters", who in their right mind is going to discuss anything with an unknown reporter and film crew? |
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en102
Canadian, eh?
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Re: "a slew of private corporate-sponsored parties"
I agree. Both want your support for their agendas, and both are horrible.
Whether it's the Democrats:
Tax us till we break, and spend irresponsibly (medical/medicare fraud, general wasteful spending). Sue for discrimination wherever possible, and kill off any hope of running your own business.
Or the Republicans:
Sell it all to the highest bidder, outsource north America, and still raise fees on everything possible. Become the world's police, for corporate interests.
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SHABAZZ
join:2008-07-13
Seattle, WA | Hold your nose...
I’m very disappointed with the Dems & Obama for this one. But one bad decision can’t compare to John (Bush) Mccain trying to bring down America. |
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Titus Pullo
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join:2004-06-26
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chugs along guzzling corporate spooge ($$$) for our dining and dancing pleasure. Until enough people unite behind third-party candidates, those of us who see through the RNC/DNC dog & pony show will continue to suffer under its reign. The first thing people can do is turn off the TV, radio and two-party oriented blogs -- our media is pravda at this point.
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Jonbo298
join:2004-01-12
Council Bluffs, IA | reply to jimbo2150
Re: "a slew of private corporate-sponsored parties"
There are other parties besides those 2 (I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not). Independents are the next largest, green party, etc.. |
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N3OGH
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Re: Teh Two-Party system
said by Titus Pullo :our media is pravda at this point. -- EASY NOW! At least Pravda was open about having an agenda.
Our media operates under some phone cloud of impartiality.
One look at the way they cover Obama shows you that just ain't the case....
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tiger72
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Re: "a slew of private corporate-sponsored parties"
said by jimbo2150 :said by tiger72 :Stop voting (D) Stop voting (R) Who would you recommend then? If you don't vote D and don't vote R, you are not left with much. You suggest no one be president? Open office? ;P At the current rate things are going, that just might work!
There are many 3rd parties who would love your support, and chances are there are 3rd parties which line up with precisely what you want - whether they're Reform, Green, Libertarians, or Constitutionalists...
But as long as we're stuck in the (D)-(R) chasm, we're going to just continue to fall.
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roc5955
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Rosendale, NY | reply to en102
Re: AT&T ,,, your money, delivered to the fund raisers
To quote Thomas Jefferson, "We need a bloody revolution every twenty years, just to keep government honest."
It's been 232 years... Long overdue.
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cornelius785
join:2006-10-26
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Re: "a slew of private corporate-sponsored parties"
i hate this whole 'outsourcing' issue on how people cry like BABIES all over it. it is a FACT OF LIFE that it happens, you can NOT stop unless you cut off entirely from the world (nothing in or out of the country). i'd suggest anyone concerned with 'outsourcing' should take a good look at history. find me a place in time in which a technology or knowledge or 'jobs' did not get 'outsourced' to another country or place. we live, now more so than ever, in a world with a tightly intertwined global economy in which some competition is not confined to just locally. |
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said by tiger72 :Really? You really can't believe they did this? Partisanship has only hidden the reality of politics. Each side points and cries "THEY are horrible!". When it comes down to it, both parties do the same crap, just under different banners. Stop voting (D) Stop voting (R) Vote on the issues, and this will stop. Until then, it'll continue to be business as usual. I just want to see a national debate with a 3rd party participating. We generally keep voting the incumbents back into office over and over again and we are going nowhere. There is very little separating a Democrat from a Republican other than the direction the mud is being slung. I keep hearing how I am wasting my vote by casting mine for anything other than R or D each election, but I know in my heart that I am really doing the right thing, and we have to start somewhere. |
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said by tiger72 :There are many 3rd parties who would love your support, and chances are there are 3rd parties which line up with precisely what you want - whether they're Reform, Green, Libertarians, or Constitutionalists... But as long as we're stuck in the (D)-(R) chasm, we're going to just continue to fall. said by jmn1207 :I just want to see a national debate with a 3rd party participating. The problem with most 3rd parties is that they spend too much time and money on national campaigns. If they went whole hog in a limited # of selected states they could actually get people elected to Congress(especially the House) and then use their leverage in a non-majority D-R split in Congress to negotiate some of the things they want and gain higher visibility for future elections. Until they do that they are going nowhere in Presidential elections.
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cornelius785
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Worcester, MA | gee, i wonder...
who AT&T is gonna back? McCain with whoever or obama with biden? I'm placing my bets on obama+biden. just look at biden's record. change obama says? it'll be a change for the worse, which seem impossible given bush and his cohorts right now. |
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TKJunkMail
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| said by cornelius785 :who AT&T is gonna back? McCain with whoever or obama with biden? Big corporations will support both candidates at the same time. It is much safer to buy both candidates then it is to back the wrong one.
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