Deconstructing The Exaflood Myth

said by nasadude:

if inflation is the culprit, why hasn't my comcast broadband connection gone up in price? comcast hasn't changed broadband pricing in 3-4 years (except to add higher cost, higher speed tiers).

are you telling me they are eating the cost of inflation because of competition? because they're nice? because of ...?

said by nasadude:

please note I said "broadband pricing"; I agree with you 100% on the tv side of things but I purposely stayed away from that because I didn't want to start ranting.

were told in countless editorials like this 2007 one from an AT&T-backed think tanker that hinted the end of the Internet was perilously close

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said by nasadude:

so your point is what?

the guy is fudging statistics and internet traffic data because he's in the tank with outside interests?

that he's a crooked researcher/academic that is either getting paid under the table or hopes for future remuneration from grateful hardware companies?

as is frequently pointed out but equally frequently ignored, facts have a known liberal bias.

said by Linklist:

Just pointing out that what is good for the goose is good for the gander.

If a study backed by AT&T money is AUTOMATICALLY suspect and distrusted, then why should I not suspect a study funded by companies that benefit from the idea that the internet has no bandwidth problems.

said by Linklist:

Which points to:
»www.dtc.umn.edu/industrial/affil···st.shtml
Companies that want to continue selling products based on the premise that the internet is just fine and dandy and that no problems are on the horizon.

said by Linklist:

Companies that want to continue selling products based on the premise that the internet is just fine and dandy and that no problems are on the horizon.

Between 2007 and 2008, average traffic utilization levels decreased from 31 percent to 29 percent while peak utilization fell from 44 percent to 43 percent.

While utilisation on international links to Europe and Asia fell in 2008, they rose in the US & Canada and Latin American where traffic growth outpaced the deployment of new internet bandwidth.

said by Linklist:

»Deconstructing The Exaflood Myth
The above is for international traffic utilization of the internet.

But checking the Telegeography news site, that is NOT TRUE for the US backbone.

»www.telegeography.com/cu/article···ail=html

said by pizz:Sure it's expensive to maintain/manage/upgrade a ISP type network - But money shouldnt be an issue - with all the growth that's been booming since broadband was first introduced in the late 90s.

I seriously think, this is just another way to charge more, for piss-poor management of a company's funds.
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The boom you speak of is over. Recent data suggests that new broadband customer growth is nearly over. That means that the CEOs are seeing the revenue line of the graphs flatten out. Unfortunately for the MBAs creating those graphs, Internet usage (and therefore costs) continues to grow. That's what is making the beancounters nervous.

said by pizz:

I think its the suits in the exec office's making this to be such an issue. Because they simply do not want to allocate funds to networking upgrades.

said by pizz:

There are limitations on any network of what it can and cannot handle. Congestion does happen, but there is so many QOS tools available, that it should never be as bad as companies are making it sound.

said by IHM:

... Where is the return on this investment to come from?