KrK
Heavy Artillery For The Little Guy
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join:2000-01-17
Tulsa, OK | Progress.
I don't have DirecTV or a TIVO at the moment, but this still seems like a good idea to me. |
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myosh
join:2001-05-03
Cupertino, CA
 ·Pacific Bell - SBC
| Might lure me away from Comcast
As a current Comcast subscriber with two HD TiVos (Series3 and TiVoHD), the HD DirecTiVo would make for a compelling reason to dump Comcast and switch to DirecTV. Cost will be important but Comcast will probably go through 2 rounds of rate increases by the time the HD DirecTiVo launches. |
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ffink20001
join:2002-12-18
Norwich, CT | Finally
About time I loved my Old DIrectv TIVO which with it's suggestions feature turned me on to alot of new shows. The NEW DVR is just buggy as hell and Randomely freezes and has no Suggestions. |
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psx_defector
join:2001-06-09
Allen, TX | Finally......
A reason not to drop DirecTV.
Their DVR sucks compared to even a series 1 DirecTiVO.
Now we just have to wait. |
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Phil
Rojo Sol
Premium
join:2001-06-11
Camarillo, CA | Would it not be safe to day that TiVo is far superior to any DVR offered by a cable provider? I know that the HD DVR from Time Warner down right lacks dozens of features and/or functionality you think would come standard. |
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KrK
Heavy Artillery For The Little Guy
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join:2000-01-17
Tulsa, OK
·AT&T Yahoo
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 ·Cox HSI
| You'd think.... but there's this thing called patents.
For example, Dish's PVR's are generally well liked... but they are embroiled in a patent dispute with TIVO.
So, it's possible many the features you like aren't present simply because of said patent issues.
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Dmoralize
join:2004-12-17
Nazareth, PA
| I like the HR20
In order to receive the glut of new HD channels I was sorta forced to switch to DirecTV's HD DVR from my HD DirecTivo. I liked the Tivo unit a lot but the HR20 won me over big time. I think the interface is far better than the Tivo. I wouldn't think of switching at this point. And mine isn't buggy at all. I haven't had a single problem with it.
I always think choice is a good thing though. So this is potentially a decent move for the company. |
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bassjunky
join:2005-05-12
Aubrey, TX
| how much?
I have the HR21 and subscribe to their HD package. While it's not quite as user-friendly as a Tivo, I haven't found it buggy and really don't have any complaints. But a newer mpeg-4 Tivo box would rock. I wonder if it will be just as expensive to upgrade or convert to as the HR20/21s were... |
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keyboard5684
join:2001-08-01
Youngsville, PA
 ·Teliax VOIP
 ·WestPAnet Inc.
·WestPAnet Inc. CA..
| My upgrade was free, and I like it as well. Every 6 months they give me a new offer to upgrade to an HD DVR, and they are nice. I have 2 Tivo's left and really could care less if it goes.
I have never had a freeze up, buggy issue, or anything like that. I think a lot of people that do have those may have issues with high-def and there TV. Even low def has bugs, so it may be your TV. They are all digital now except there may be an analog tuner, this makes them just as buggy as anything else we buy. The sad thing is how do we upgrade the firmware of our TV? |
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psx_defector
join:2001-06-09
Allen, TX
| reply to KrK
Re: Finally......
The one feature I wanted in the DTV PVR and has been claimed as a TiVo "patent" is the ability to flip between the tuners.
So I'm watching one show, commerical comes on. I hit pause, hit down, flip to the other tuner and surf the channels. Once I feel I'm done with that, flip back to the first tuner, and hit play.
Comes in really handy when watching football, especially with the 50 dozen or so commerical breaks that happen.
I've tested and worked with just about every DVR solution from ReplayTV to Myth to TiVo to U-Verse. Even throw in an UltimateTV unit for good measure.  The ability to record, schedule, and playback is everywhere. It's the look, feel, and touch of TiVo that makes me stay with it. DirecTV's HR20 isn't bad compared to some other ones but the fluidity and refinement in the TiVo is what makes it better.
Some people just don't care about it, but as someone who watches WAYYYYYYYY too much TV, I need a DVR that works very well. It also doesn't hurt that the TiVos are upgradeable and hackable. My DSR6000 is already on it's 4th upgrade. The only thing I can do to the HR20 is add a eSATA drive, which kills the internal drive. First thing I do when I get my HD TiVo is to upgrade it to two 750GB hard drives. |
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dbmaven
There's no shortage
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join:1999-10-26
Sty in Sky
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·magicjack.com
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Computer Hardware ..
| Pricing will be very interesting....
How much were the HR10-250's (DirecTiVOs) when they came out?
Something like $1000.00 ?
Eventually they came down - but they were not cheap.
For the vocal minority of people who were/are TiVO fanatics, this is certainly welcome news.
Like someone else mentioned, I've never had reboot/missed recording or any other issues with my HR2x's. And with the additional features DirecTV has been adding/testing/working on, right now I have no interest in switching. A year is a very long time - so we'll really have to wait and see what the new TiVO looks like and how it performs against what DirecTV has at that time.
From a "why are they doing this" perspective - that's the interesting question. It's possible that financially it will make more sense for them to keep their own branded DVRs as a "base" line, and sell the TiVO enabled units as an 'upscale' alternative. If so, it's possible that development on the HR2x units will be scaled back to just fixes and stability, with no new features. With what I've seen in the pipeline, that's a stretch - but who knows.
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KrK
Heavy Artillery For The Little Guy
Premium
join:2000-01-17
Tulsa, OK
·AT&T Yahoo
·AT&T DSL Service
·Cox HSI
| reply to psx_defector
Re: Finally......
I've got a replayTV.  Also hackable. It originally had a 40GB drive in there, but I changed it out some time ago to a 250GB.
I love it's commercial auto-skipping feature, but it's getting long in the tooth now and has no support for HD. |
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Heterman
Premium
join:2004-02-28
Fayetteville, AR
| reply to psx_defector
said by psx_defector  :The one feature I wanted in the DTV PVR and has been claimed as a TiVo "patent" is the ability to flip between the tuners. So I'm watching one show, commerical comes on. I hit pause, hit down, flip to the other tuner and surf the channels. Once I feel I'm done with that, flip back to the first tuner, and hit play. That is what makes me the most unhappy about the HR20/21. I want that capability back as fast as possible. |
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MightyPez
join:2002-05-01
Saint Paul, MN
·Comcast
| I am intrigued
I have no real problems with my HR20 from DirecTV, but previous to that I had a series 2 DirecTivo box. One thing I loved about it was that with a little know-how, you could do some pretty interesting modifications to it. Pop in a bigger hard drive, copy some of the contents from the Tivo to a PC over the network, etc.
If these new Tivos are as "hackable" then I would be very interested. |
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newview
Ex .. Ex .. Exactly
Premium
join:2001-10-01
Parsonsburg, MD | I really don't care . . .
which technology is finally powering my DirecTV DVR, as long as it provides a way to SKIP those annoying, incessant, inane commercials. THAT would be a deal-breaker for me. |
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DaMaGeINC
The Lan Man
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join:2002-06-08
Greenville, SC
clubs: | Cool
I love innovation in the industry. Take something and make it better. I am all for that. As long as I see you trying to compete with the times, then you are ""good"" in my book. |
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poolek
join:2003-11-04
Austin, TX
·RoadRunner Cable
 ·AT&T U-Verse
·ViaTalk
·AT&T Yahoo
| Nice...
I switched to Dish from Direct when I transitioned to HD a couple of years ago. While the Dish 622 DRV has been trouble free and offers most of the core features expected, it's still not as nice as the old DirecTivo that I had.
Assuming the price is reasonable, I'd move back to DirecTV just to get this product. |
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ravencajun
Premium
join:2004-08-12
Houston, TX
| reply to DaMaGeINC
Re: Cool
I am so glad to see this news. I was just saying this week how much I miss my direct tv tivo, the dvr they gave me when the tivo died is horrible, it freezes up, reboots, makes me redo complete setup, loses shows and just locks up right in the middle of stuff till I have to just unplug it from the wall to get it to do anything huge POS!
The next time I call them which will probably be tomorrow I will tell them I want a tivo back.
at least we have hope for the future |
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aaronwt
Premium
join:2004-11-07
Woodbridge, VA
·Verizon FIOS
| reply to dbmaven
Re: Pricing will be very interesting....
They were very expensive. i bought seven of them when they came out in May 2004 and sold four of them for over $1600 each which was able to cover most of the cost of the three I kept.
said by dbmaven :How much were the HR10-250's (DirecTiVOs) when they came out? Something like $1000.00 ? Eventually they came down - but they were not cheap. For the vocal minority of people who were/are TiVO fanatics, this is certainly welcome news. Like someone else mentioned, I've never had reboot/missed recording or any other issues with my HR2x's. And with the additional features DirecTV has been adding/testing/working on, right now I have no interest in switching. A year is a very long time - so we'll really have to wait and see what the new TiVO looks like and how it performs against what DirecTV has at that time. From a "why are they doing this" perspective - that's the interesting question. It's possible that financially it will make more sense for them to keep their own branded DVRs as a "base" line, and sell the TiVO enabled units as an 'upscale' alternative. If so, it's possible that development on the HR2x units will be scaled back to just fixes and stability, with no new features. With what I've seen in the pipeline, that's a stretch - but who knows. |
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Camelot One
Premium,MVM
join:2001-11-21
Sarasota, FL
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| reply to KrK
Re: Progress.
said by KrK :I don't have DirecTV or a TIVO at the moment, but this still seems like a good idea to me. I DO have DirecTV, and their HR20-700. It was tough for me to switch from my HR10-250 DirecTivo box at first, partly because things were in different places, but mostly because the software on the HR20 was pretty buggy early on.
But they have since worked out the major kinks, and most of the minor ones, and the features far exceed anything I've seen from Tivo. Add to that the incredibly long turn around time for firmware releases on the DirecTivo boxes compared to 2-3 week fix times on the HR20, and I'm not so sure switching back to Tivo is a good idea.
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