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Comments on news posted 2008-09-04 16:03:09: While a lot was been made of the FCC's investigation and Comcast's shift to a "protocol agnostic" network management system, the recent FCC order (pdf) didn't actually punish Comcast, didn't request they do anything they didn't plan to do voluntarily.. ..

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Ikarasu

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Good ol Comcast... didn't they try this before, saying FCC has no authority over them?

Should be interesting to see how their appeal goes. I hope Comcast gets told that FCC does have authority... maybe then they'll watch what they do secretly.

Steve B

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Lobbying Needs to Be Outlawed....

Throwing money at a congress person or senator to 'buy' their vote needs to be outlawed, plain and simple.


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Dear Fcc:

Dear Fcc,

I speak for the children of America. Those who are still learning their ABC's and what not, figuring out what life is all about. Please kill Comcast before they destroy the internet as we know it. If you don't hand their ass to them, at the very least, help Telco's all around the nation spread their joyous pipe across the land. Subsidize costs for new equipment and make it a viable option to topple the beast that is Crap/Cap/Comcast, so that Americas future doesn't consist of idiotic "FanCast" services , and that we may continue to do what we want, when we want on this vast series of tubes.

Thanks.


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Lobbyists are right; comcast is not above the law. But, seeing as there are no laws against sending forged packets, or throttling speeds...


cdru
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Re: Lobbying Needs to Be Outlawed....

Ain't going to happen. You could expect EVERY lobbyist in the country to lobby against it.


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Dear Comcast...

would you like a little cheese with that whine?


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Assume that Comcast wins...

Even though it appears that the FCC had the authority, let's assume that the FCC didn't have the authority for the sake of an argument, and that Comcast wins this appeal.

The very next thing that will happen is that Congress will pass -- at a very minimum -- legislation that puts the FCC's current policy into law and that gives the FCC whatever power that it needs to do what it did. Both Democrats and Republicans have offered to sponsor -that- bill, and Martin told them it wasn't necessary. It's going to happen.

But, more than the minimum, it's likely that an even bigger debate will emerge, and the result won't be as flexible as the minimalist policy that we have now. That's just bad for Comcast.

When Comcast lost the FCC case, it won. The FCC basically said it had to do the things that Comcast said it would do anyway, and it failed to punish.

If Comcast wins this appeal, it loses. The resulting government reactions will put more restraints on Comcast and its buddies.

I'm not sure who to root for.
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Re: Lobbying Needs to Be Outlawed....

said by Steve B See Profile :

Throwing money at a congress person or senator to 'buy' their vote needs to be outlawed, plain and simple.
And what has that to do with an appeal of a ruling in a Federal Appeals Court. There is no lobbying the Appeals Court. They will decide how they decide.
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Steve B

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I was just making a comment about lobbying in general since the article mentioned it. That's all.


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said by Ikarasu See Profile :

Good ol Comcast... didn't they try this before, saying FCC has no authority over them?
Yes. And the FCC lost in the Appeals Court.

Comcast is likely to prevail again. The FCC has a dismal record in the Appeals Court of the District of Columbia Circuit.
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EPS

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Re: Lobbying Needs to Be Outlawed....

said by Steve B See Profile :

Throwing money at a congress person or senator to 'buy' their vote needs to be outlawed, plain and simple.
Why shouldn't companies be allowed to present their positions to elected representatives?


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said by EPS See Profile :

said by Steve B See Profile :

Throwing money at a congress person or senator to 'buy' their vote needs to be outlawed, plain and simple.
Why shouldn't companies be allowed to present their positions to elected representatives?
are you saying "present" = $$
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Go To Hell Comcast

After speaking with so many former subscribers that were lied to and kicked off for that pathetic hidden bandwidth limit that Comcast had heavily enforced, its about time the FCC goes after them and the government gets involved.
Without regulation, this is how greedy corporations become monopolies that give very little but get away with a lot.

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Depends on how you interpret the law.

If I made phone calls to a buncha people, spoofing my caller ID into your phone #, It'd be identity theft.

Comcast sending fake packets you did not initiate, could be viewed the same way.

But then again, Packet inspection should be labeled a invasion of privacy...and so far it isn't, so it's all just "Could bes" until/if a court decides.

Either way... I hope comcast loses in the appeal, throttling is one thing, forging packets is another.

EPS

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Re: Lobbying Needs to Be Outlawed....

Well if a company feels that a candidate or politican's positions will further its interests, why shouldn't said company be permitted to donate funds to aid in that candidate's campaign?

Of course, if you outlawed corporations from making said contributions you would just have the CEOs / directors / etc. making the donations instead, which is their Supreme Court-granted right under the Constitution.

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reply to EPS
said by EPS See Profile :

said by Steve B See Profile :

Throwing money at a congress person or senator to 'buy' their vote needs to be outlawed, plain and simple.
Why shouldn't companies be allowed to present their positions to elected representatives?
Because companies don't vote in the election of the representatives. Those "elected" representatives are supposed to represent the electorate; common voters such as you and I.
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My idea of campaign finance reform: Only registered voters can contribute, and only up to 5% of their Adjusted Gross Income on their 1040 forms.
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Rob2647

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Re: Dear Fcc:

I can't agree more.

axus

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Re: :\

There's no law saying I need an ID to board an airplane, but here we are
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