JSY
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Elmhurst, NY
clubs: | God forbid that people's usenet access gets hampered by...
...this grounding issue.
Oh, wait... |
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danclan
join:2005-11-01
Midlothian, VA | 100% Fishing Expedition
By an AG who loves to fish in streams with no water and no fish...yet report catching giant whoppers.... |
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Shamayim
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join:2002-09-23 | Spitzer lite. |
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Austinloop
join:2001-08-19
Austin, TX | Does he have the same taste as Spitzer in "friends"? |
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TKJunkMail
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said by danclan  :By an AG who loves to fish in streams with no water and no fish...yet report catching giant whoppers.... Why is the NY Attorney General getting involved in investigating what is happening in other states?? Is he planning on running for some national office some day?
This is just another media grab by a man with a huge ego who wants to be President some day.
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pnh102
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1 edit | said by TKJunkMail :Why is the NY Attorney General getting involved in investigating what is happening in other states?? Is he planning on running for some national office some day? Yes!
But in all fairness, if Verizon believes that this is a legitimate safety issue and is revisiting all of its FIOS installations in NYS, then it only stands to reason that there could (and probably are) installation issues in other states that should be revisited.
Politics aside, I think Verizon is doing the right thing here. If the AG Cuomo's announcement prompts other states to investigate, find and correct legitimate safety installation issues then I think this is a good thing.
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ip_power
join:2008-09-05
Washington, DC
| AG Look at your dish and DirecTV FIRST
Come on, I understand Electric Codes, but first take a look at those SatDish installs, are they grounded (EXTERNAL TO THE HOME), has there been any lightening strike, personal property damage. Should fishy to me, bet the contractor wasnt union for FIOS. Thus dont watch the puppet behind the curtain. |
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jhboricua
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| said by ip_power :Should fishy to me, bet the contractor wasnt union for FIOS. Well of course, that explains everything.  |
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pnh102
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said by ip_power :Come on, I understand Electric Codes, but first take a look at those SatDish installs, are they grounded (EXTERNAL TO THE HOME), has there been any lightening strike, personal property damage. I was wondering about this myself.
I have an unused DirecTV dish outside of my house and the two coaxial cables come into the basement and just dangle in the air. I don't see any grounding blocks or any other means of grounding these wires. Are these supposed to be grounded?
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n2jtx
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Re: 100% Fishing Expedition
said by TKJunkMail :said by danclan :By an AG who loves to fish in streams with no water and no fish...yet report catching giant whoppers.... Why is the NY Attorney General getting involved in investigating what is happening in other states?? Is he planning on running for some national office some day? This is just another media grab by a man with a huge ego who wants to be President some day. I have to wonder too. What the heck are the other states AG's doing? Wasting taxpayer money? It always seems to be the NYS AG, paid for by NYS taxpayers, is out trying to corral other states into doing things. Granted we are "The Empire State". But for crying out loud, take care of New York State and let the others fend for themselves or let the Federal Government (Hah!) deal with it.
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Airwolf7
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Franklin, KY | reply to pnh102
Re: AG Look at your dish and DirecTV FIRST
If it's not connected to anything then I guess it doesn't really matter.
There should have been a grounding block. |
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Airwolf7
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Franklin, KY | reply to TKJunkMail
Re: 100% Fishing Expedition
It he not from one of those Democratic states that like to mind everyone else's business? |
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pnh102
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Re: AG Look at your dish and DirecTV FIRST
said by Airwolf7 :If it's not connected to anything then I guess it doesn't really matter. Why is it when I read that I get a "famous last words" feeling? 
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ITALIAN926
join:2003-08-16
Stratford, CT
1 edit | craaaap
This issue is STILL being blown out of proportion. There is no potential problem here with a non-metallic, fiber drop to someones house. Oh wait, we're all concerned about a bolt of lightening hitting the SIDE of someones house??? YEEEEEA RIIIIIIIIIIGHT. This is exactly the reason there have been NO DAMAGE or INJURIES reported to date and FiOS has been around for 3 + years.
Verizon is now being forced to run 6 gauge ground wire through customers APARTMENTS with NO EXTERIOR wiring. Now if a lightening bolt shot through someones window.. and hit their ONT, I dont think a properly grounded ONT is gonna help them very much.
Bottom line... the NY PSC is in the cable companies pocket. |
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ip_power
join:2008-09-05
Washington, DC
| Are you saying that the feeder fiber to the home does not have a locator wire in it? So when you need to dig or do some landscaping and you call for diggers hotline to get the utilites marked, then how is the FIOS path going to be found? That bothers me, I know how long it takes for a service call now and if its my fault because I cut the fiber while digging... Most Fiber laterals I have seen even the premanufactured from ADC has a locator wire. |
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ITALIAN926
join:2003-08-16
Stratford, CT | I dont know about buried fiber.. Im talking about drop wires from the poles. But even so, if a bolt of lightening hits the ground, guess where it goes..
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ip_power
join:2008-09-05
Washington, DC
| Lateral drops, drops from the pole, airial, doesnt matter. earth ground isnt always the absolute ground, »en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrical_grounding.
The problem is - that any line tech will tell you, if lightening hits a tree, any wire within a good distance will become energized (statically or directly), especially the buried wires.
Dont get me wrong, if it isnt obvious I think this is a NY-PSC special interest thing, for other than the safety of residence reasoing.
My sole point when was the last audit on Cable or SatDishes done (if it quacks its probably a duck). |
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NOCMan
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Flower Mound, TX
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I checked my fios box, it's got a clip to attached to the case of the power meter.
I turned it all off and ran a new ground 3 more feet down to the grounding rod directly.
Seems comcast never grounded their service entrance box either, but Direct TV at one time figured out how to do it.
I would say that many companies who are installing equipment need basic electronics grounding training.
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rit56
join:2000-12-01
New York, NY | reply to ITALIAN926
Re: craaaap
and since the FCC is in Verizon/AT&T pocket in an odd way there is some sort of balance going on... |
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ip_power
join:2008-09-05
Washington, DC
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Re: YES
Just becareful about adding a "NEW" ground rod. you can get into a situation where the ground you create is better than the powers and/or you have a difference of potential between the two of them. May cause a couple of things - power ground trying to use it as the reverse feed or you might even cause a hazard area if something was to interconnect the two of them. No professional advise other than I would contact the Power company and get them to check the ground they provide and then connect them all to it. |
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