S_engineer
join:2007-05-16
Chicago, IL | Sad
Where's ours?????????????????????????  |
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dadkins
Can you do Blu?
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join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA | Santa Clara, CA.
Google Paxio for information. |
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pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
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join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD
 ·Comcast
|  Ugh
The same people who shilled for every single failed municipal broadband program in the USA will now shill for this one.
The only difference is fiber is a much greater and the taxpayers will be left holding a much bigger bag.
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nasadude
join:2001-10-05
Rockville, MD
·Comcast
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Re: Sad
said by S_engineer  :Where's ours????????????????????????? I figure in 10 or 15 years we MIGHT have these kinds of speeds, if we're lucky.
that would be awesome, though - we could hit our comcast cap in about 5 minutes! |
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battleop
join:2005-09-28
00000 | It will be several years at a minimum before you would NEED anything close to 1Gbps. This would be as useful as having a 108Mbps wireless router connected to a 6Mb DSL circuit. |
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sousademiami
join:2003-02-04
Hialeah, FL
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1 edit | reply to S_engineer
said by S_engineer :Where's ours????????????????????????? We're lucky enough here to have real competition, so our internet connections are far superior to this so-called "fiber." Here in the US we have REAL fiber. The type that ends far before your front door to provide the best possible service to you and your family!
Edit: Also note that your US internet connection is capable of sending 500,000 emails PER MONTH!!!!!! I know that's a little overwhelming. Take a minute to absorb it.
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Matt
Take me down to the paradise city
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join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC
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Re: Ugh
said by pnh102 :The same people who shilled for every single failed municipal broadband program in the USA will now shill for this one. The only difference is fiber is a much greater and the taxpayers will be left holding a much bigger bag. I'd counter with this is proof of what can be accomplished when the Muni's are left to plan and test their network rather than fight frivolous lawsuits and smear campaigns by the local ILECs and MSOs.
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S_engineer
join:2007-05-16
Chicago, IL
·Comcast
| reply to pnh102
said by pnh102 :The same people who shilled for every single failed municipal broadband program in the USA will now shill for this one. The only difference is fiber is a much greater and the taxpayers will be left holding a much bigger bag. you're right on that, but my point was to look at the enthusiastic deployment of higher technologies everywhere but here in the US. Getting the telcos/cablecos to do anything to advance the broadband market is like pulling teeth! |
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Morac
join:2001-08-30
Riverside, NJ
·Comcast
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Re: Sad
It would be nice to be able to download an entire HD movie in under a minute.
1 Gbps is unreal. With those speeds you could hit Comcast's 250 GB cap in a approximately 33 minutes. 
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SilverSurfer
join:2007-08-19
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said by sousademiami :We're lucky enough here to have real competition, so our internet connections are far superior to this so-called "fiber." Here in the US we have REAL fiber. The type that ends far before your front door to provide the best possible service to you and your family! Edit: Also note that your US internet connection is capable of sending 500,000 emails PER MONTH!!!!!! I know that's a little overwhelming. Take a minute to absorb it. "Real" competition? Sorry to burst your bubble, but you're living in a fantasyland if you believe that "competition" consists of exactly 1 DSL and exactly 1 cable co. provider for BB service in any given market. And that's only IF you reside in a metro area. BB in rural areas of the country is by & large non-existent. |
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swhitney2003
I can't drive 55.
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| It's good to know.
It's good to know that at least somewhere in the world people are actually trying to push technology to its limits.
Even though we have no use for 1gbps, it would be nice to know that an infrastructure could easily be upgraded to handle it.
The day I get moved off DOCSIS 1 will be a good day. |
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swhitney2003
I can't drive 55.
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join:2003-06-13
NH
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Re: Sad
I think he was being sarcastic |
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battleop
join:2005-09-28
00000 | reply to Morac
No, you would not hit that cap in 33 minutes. The far end isn't going to feed you that HD movie at 1Gbps. Even on our internal network it still takes a few minutes to push 10Gb files from one machine to the other. |
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maartena
Stacked.
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join:2002-05-10
Orange, CA
·RoadRunner Cable
| reply to S_engineer
said by S_engineer :Where's ours????????????????????????? I am originally from the Netherlands, now living in California. The Dutch telecom operators have - in the past, not anymore - gotten big government subsidies to implement data networks and cable TV.
The Netherlands is roughly half the size of Maine, or twice the size of New Hampshire, to give you an idea of size, and currently 98% of the country can get DSL and CableTV, and as much as 5% can get municipal fiber or commercial fiber.
It is a dense market, as there are 16 million people living there, and connectivity between cities is a lot easier to manage. For instance, the Dutch railway system connects pretty much every city that has more then 50.000 people, and many cities smaller then that, and telecom companies are allowed to use the state-owned rail property to connect cities to fiber networks. Along the railways, you will often find a concrete "canal" (compare it sorta to square sewerpipes that are a foot in diameter) with concrete covers every few kilometers or so which makes it very easy to add fiber lines between cities.
Many major telecom companies have datacenters not far from a railway line to tap into the big fiber rings going through the "randstad" area in western Holland.
Basically, due to existing infrastructure such as railways, government subsidies in the past, government allowing telcos to use the railway data-canals to cheaply add huge amounts of bandwidth to innner-city and inter-city networks, has made it a lot more affordable to connect big fat pipes to the common man.
The AMS-IX (Amsterdam Internet Exchange) is the largest internet hub of the world:
From wikipedia:
"As of September 11, 2008 AMS-IX connected 301 members on 562 ports[5] and the all time peak of incoming traffic was 444.725 Gbit/s and of outgoing traffic 442.073 Gbit/s.[6] This makes the Amsterdam Internet Exchange the largest internet exchange in the world, when measured by number of connected members and by internet traffic, before the Deutscher Commercial Internet Exchange[7] and the London Internet Exchange.[8]"
Here in the United States, telco companies have to pay for everything. They don't get government subsidies, they don't get to use the countries Amtrak infrastructure to deploy city-to-city fiber, and another big issue is the distance between cities here in the US. It is significantly more expensive to bring a big fat pipe to a city, and thus more expensive to bring it to homes. |
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Kearnstd
Elf Wizard
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join:2002-01-22
Mullica Hill, NJ
| more vital then 1gbit fiber
the connector for the houseboat fiber could possibly make it easier to bring fiber to other land applications. maybe even make FTTH installs easier and more efficent here on dry land.
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iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
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| At the moment I have to agree that no residence needs gigabit fiber (more connectivity than my whole school has!) but 100 Mbps would be nice, or even 50 Mbps (which is well within spec for 802.11n). Instead, we in the US are left with something generally less than one percent of those speeds. Lame.
hen WAN connectivity is limited by residential-grade LAN equipment, then we have progress |
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DaMaGeINC
The Lan Man
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join:2002-06-08
Greenville, SC
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1 edit | Not at my house! I got 2Gig links connecting a few things here.
pictures soon. |
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swhitney2003
I can't drive 55.
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| reply to iansltx
It makes you wonder how long it will be until everything is wired with light in a household. toslink anyone?
I'd love to have everything in my household be gigabit... but really have nothing pushing me to do so, computers are barely capable of putting a huge, consistent strain on 100mbps. When media devices start being wired through my network, I might consider. |
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swhitney2003
I can't drive 55.
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1 edit | reply to DaMaGeINC
said by DaMaGeINC :Not at my house! I got 2Gig links connecting a few things here. Just curious, what does one do with so much allotted bandwidth? Are they business class links? |
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DaMaGeINC
The Lan Man
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join:2002-06-08
Greenville, SC
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1 edit | These are "in house" connections. Like switch to server, pc to pc. I have the capacity, just not the WAN connections to support it.
ps, everything is gigabit in my house, just a few things are connected with 2gb/s links. |
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