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Comments on news posted 2008-09-15 15:46:04: AT&T CTO John Donovan talks to Dow Jones about AT&T's efforts to respond to last quarter's dismal DSL subscriber additions. ..

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bigunk
Gort, Klattu Birada Nikto

join:2001-02-10
Santa Clarita, CA
ATT better watch out

This is a warning to you AT&T. Don't screw us around.


DivineDark

join:2001-08-30
Oklahoma City, OK
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Typical

Sounds like an attempt to avoid upgrading speeds by metering data. The end result is less data going across the network due to increased cost on consumers but the company still rakes in billions.


ninjatutle
Premium

join:2006-01-02
San Ramon, CA
·Sprint Mobile Broa..

reply to bigunk
Re: ATT better watch out

I agree. I am switching over my family members who are on Comcast to ATT & Directv.

I just switched over my mother's place to Directv and ATT DSl from Comcast Digital Cable and Modem service due to the capagae. I don't live there but I don't want them supporting the capage.

Plus, they were paying $193/month for TV and internet with Comcast. Thats going to hurt Comcast. 1 more household to go.


Steve
I'm a PC, so shut up
Consultant
join:2001-03-10
Yorba Linda, CA
reply to bigunk
Or else what... ?


sousademiami

join:2003-02-04
Hialeah, FL
·Comcast
·AT&T Southeast

So...

Lemme get this straight. AT&T is losing customers like mad, and their solution is a less-for-more approach? That should work.

Actually I wouldn't be surprised if it did given that these companies can just lie lie lie in their ads and most people are none the wiser.
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bigunk
Gort, Klattu Birada Nikto

join:2001-02-10
Santa Clarita, CA
reply to Steve
Re: ATT better watch out

You'll have to wait and see. A good poker player keeps his cards close to the vest and has no tell for his opponents to pick up on.


sluggish

@sbcglobal.net

Capping speeds

They don't have to. My apartment wiring is already capping the speed to 1676 download speed. Doesn't matter what I buy, just can't get the thru put. As usual, some "brilliant" manager figures its better to harm the whole community than address the 1% heavy users. Deal with the problem people!!!


P Ness
You'Ve Forgotten 9-11 Already
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join:2001-08-29
Mineola, NY
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Savings for who?

"Raise of hands on who thinks any new pricing policy by AT&T results in lower broadband prices for anybody"

nope they will keep the base price for all users and charge heavy users out the ass.

making more money in the end.

lowering the amount of this so called "limit" till everyone is paying for services just like a cell phone...nickle and dime
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blips

join:2001-04-17
Addison, IL

reply to bigunk
Re: ATT better watch out

said by bigunk See Profile :

This is a warning to you AT&T. Don't screw us around.
Where are you going to go? There just are not any choices for broadband. You can have cable with a 250GB cap or DSL with metered usage. After ATT does this it probably will not be long before Verizon starts caps.


GlobalMind
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Hollywood, FL


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Time to switch?

This should be interesting.

I work from home and use my connection all day every day. I depend on it, and generally speaking AT&T's service there has been just fine, no issues really in 4 years.

If they really make enough changes which make using it as I currently do a problem or vastly more expensive, then it might be time to move to something else, which more than likely means Comcast.
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Neyland

join:2003-02-04
USA
U-Verse over IP?

Doesn't ATT unlike cable actually move their video over an IP connection?

MyDogHsFleas
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·AT&T Southwest

said by Neyland See Profile :

Doesn't ATT unlike cable actually move their video over an IP connection?
Well, yeah, but what's that got to do with this?

U-verse Video over IP is a separate service from U-verse High Speed Internet. It's the possibility of caps or other bandwidth restrictions on HSI that we're talking about here.


sapo
I eat meat
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join:2002-09-16
Sacramento, CA
reply to bigunk
Re: ATT better watch out

If you can't make 100k subscriptions disappear in 48 hours I would quit trying to talk big.


jwhorfin
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join:2000-10-22
Torrington, CT
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reply to sluggish
Re: Capping speeds

"they actually lost 90,000 DSL subscribers thanks to the economy, competition"
They lost 90,000 customers because for a few more dollars a month I could go from 2,500 down (Pro) to 13,000 download with Optimum...Boy that's a real tough decision
Maybe they should pull their heads out of the sand, or butts or wherever they have them stuck and look around before they have 0 customers!
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MyDogHsFleas
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Austin, TX
·AT&T U-Verse
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reply to GlobalMind
Re: Time to switch?

Unless you're moving like 10 gigabytes per workday, or more, you really have little to worry about.

Unless you're running a commercial server or service (which you shouldn't be, technically, on a residential account), or running torrents 24x7, you won't run into these caps or limits, generally.

People are way, way too worried about this.


BF69

join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN

said by MyDogHsFleas See Profile :

Unless you're moving like 10 gigabytes per workday, or more, you really have little to worry about.

Unless you're running a commercial server or service (which you shouldn't be, technically, on a residential account), or running torrents 24x7, you won't run into these caps or limits, generally.

People are way, way too worried about this.
it depends. If it's a cap like Comcast which is 250 GB then no don't worry. If it's 40 GB like TW yeah then worry. At&t doesn't say what any potential cap will be.


Matt
Take me down to the paradise city
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Jamestown, NC
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reply to MyDogHsFleas
Re: U-Verse over IP?

said by MyDogHsFleas See Profile :

said by Neyland See Profile :

Doesn't ATT unlike cable actually move their video over an IP connection?
Well, yeah, but what's that got to do with this?

U-verse Video over IP is a separate service from U-verse High Speed Internet. It's the possibility of caps or other bandwidth restrictions on HSI that we're talking about here.
I think what he may be getting at, is how do you differentiate traffic - or rather - how will AT&T.
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concerned

@covad.net

reply to MyDogHsFleas
Re: Time to switch?

said by MyDogHsFleas See Profile :

Unless you're moving like 10 gigabytes per workday, or more, you really have little to worry about.

Unless you're running a commercial server or service (which you shouldn't be, technically, on a residential account), or running torrents 24x7, you won't run into these caps or limits, generally.

People are way, way too worried about this.
Perhaps today, but has your internet usage increased over the last 5 years? Do you think it will increase over the next 5?

I view this fun Cap situation like taxes and roads. Imagine the internet as public roads, and the government as your isp. You can travel on as much road as you want, but taxes will go to maintaining the road (your service fee.) now the government has determined that if you drive over too much road, you can't use it anymore.

MyDogHsFleas
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Austin, TX
·AT&T U-Verse
·AT&T Southwest

reply to BF69
said by BF69 See Profile :

it depends. If it's a cap like Comcast which is 250 GB then no don't worry. If it's 40 GB like TW yeah then worry. At&t doesn't say what any potential cap will be.
Yes I agree -- if TWC actually implements the 40GB tier that they are trialing in Beaumont, they will lose many work at home types.

(Actually the cap in Beaumont right now is probably zero, due to Ike.)

ender7074

join:2006-11-21
Saint Louis, MO
·AT&T Southeast


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This guy's funny

fight against the "perception issue" that AT&T service is slower than cable.

Ummm it is slower. Lets evaluate. I had 5 meg internet through a cable modem. I received, at a minimum, 5 meg and usually 6-7 meg. On my oh so wonderful 6meg DSL line, I get 4.5meg on a good day. Doesn't take a genius to figure that out. DSL is slower unless you have a crappy cable connection or are lucky enough to live next door to the CO.
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