  bigunkGort, Klattu Birada Nikto
join:2001-02-10
USA | ATT better watch out This is a warning to you AT&T. Don't screw us around. | |
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I just switched over my mother's place to Directv and ATT DSl from Comcast Digital Cable and Modem service due to the capagae. I don't live there but I don't want them supporting the capage.
Plus, they were paying $193/month for TV and internet with Comcast. Thats going to hurt Comcast. 1 more household to go. | |
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join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA
kudos:18 | Re: ATT better watch out said by ninjatutle:I agree. I am switching over my family members who are on Comcast to ATT & Directv. I just switched over my mother's place to Directv and ATT DSl from Comcast Digital Cable and Modem service due to the capagae. I don't live there but I don't want them supporting the capage. Plus, they were paying $193/month for TV and internet with Comcast. Thats going to hurt Comcast. 1 more household to go. »biz.yahoo.com/prnews/080730/new005.html
High-Speed Internet
-- Added 278,000 high-speed Internet subscribers during the second
quarter -- penetration reached 29% of homes passed or 14.4 million
customers.
Yeah, you're going to stab Comcast in the heart! LMAO! 
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| | | | | Re: ATT better watch out Every little bit helps. You'll see the numbers drop as people switch around from deals to deals. I'm doing my best to get all of my friends and family off of Comcast.
I'm sure Comcast will be calling often to try to lure back my mother  Who's laughing then? Nearly $200/month from a single customer in lost revenue won't be taken so lightly. | |
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join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN | Re: ATT better watch out $140 a month for cable? That's nuts. There's not that much on TV worth $140. | |
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join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA
kudos:18
3 edits | LOL!
No offense ninja... but $$45.95 less vs 278,000 new HSI *ONLY* customers( x $42.95 per month = $11,940,100.00 per month... HSI ONLY) - they aren't going to notice this single loss.
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| | | | | | | Re: ATT better watch out At least they wont have my mothers household anymore. Thats all that matters to me. Pay attention to the numbers after the rates increase for our area for video »Comcast Video-Only Subscribers See Rate Hike Tons of people will be fed up and walk.
Uverse is gaining steam. Free DVR, free set top boxes, free wifi modem/router, all IP video transmission (no fuzzy channels ) We'll see how the numbers play out.
My mothers household is paying $37.89 in equpitment fees alone  $7 outlet fee? WTH? | |
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join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA
kudos:18 | Re: ATT better watch out AT&T Again Hints At Bandwidth Crackdown
Peak, off-peak broadband minutes?
Key words on that linked item there friend - *VIDEO ONLY*.
HSI, since this article is about internet, from Comcast has not had a hike in the 5 years I have had it.
Can't wait to see you here bitching if AT&T bones you and your Mother with an insane cap or metered billing.
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join:2007-12-26
Laguna Hills, CA | Yeah but if more people would vote with their wallets, they couldn't get away with ripping off customers. | |
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| | | | | | | | Re: ATT better watch out Well, didkins is rich and can afford all the price hikes. He buys a new Viao every year and watches nothing but Blu Ray. | |
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| | | | | | | dadkinsCan you do Blu?Premium,MVM
join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA
kudos:18
3 edits | Re: ATT better watch out said by ninjatutle:Well, didkins is rich and can afford all the price hikes. He buys a new Viao every year and watches nothing but Blu Ray. dadkins
Not rich - I save my money.
Every 2 years(more or less) I buy me a New VAIO.
Since the new VAIOs I get have BD drives - why not get BDs instead of DVDs? DUH! 
Comcast HSI has not had a price hike in the 5 years I have had service... where you at?
Comcast HSI has been stepped up to 16mbps(17.3mbps actual speed(I opted for $10 more for speed years ago))... how's that AT&T doing there for ya ninja?
LOL!
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| | | | | | | |  sapoCruising Down Memory LanePremium
join:2002-09-16
Sacramento, CA
kudos:1 | Re: ATT better watch out said by s13:He also uses Opera, which blows ass. Now there is a dumb comment. | |
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join:2002-09-16
Sacramento, CA
kudos:1 | Re: ATT better watch out Blowing ass might be documented in porn, I don't know about anywhere else. | |
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: ATT better watch out They use Opera on porn sets, so there you go. | |
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: ATT better watch out So then its..."its not over till the fat lady blows"? | |
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| | | | | | dadkinsCan you do Blu?Premium,MVM
join:2003-09-26
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kudos:18 | said by Dogfather:Yeah but if more people would vote with their wallets, they couldn't get away with ripping off customers. ... still won't offset the 278k *NEW* HSI customers per quarter though, will it?
14.4 million and climbing. Yeah. Comcast is just hurting.
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| | | | | | | DogfatherPremium
join:2007-12-26
Laguna Hills, CA | Re: ATT better watch out Yeah but doesn't AT&T have more HSI subs than Comcast and AT&T only got beat in adds by Comcast when AT&T doubled their intro rates. | |
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join:2002-09-16
Sacramento, CA
kudos:1 | Re: ATT better watch out Doesn't Comcast also make more money per subscription? | |
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join:2007-12-26
Laguna Hills, CA | Re: ATT better watch out said by sapo:Doesn't Comcast also make more money per subscription? You would have to look at each company's annual report but with Comcast's high rates it certainly wouldn't surprise me. | |
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join:2003-09-26
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2 edits | said by Dogfather:Yeah but doesn't AT&T have more HSI subs than Comcast and AT&T only got beat in adds by Comcast when AT&T doubled their intro rates. No idea.
This I found interesting posted above:
"While the company did add 46,000 subscribers total due to U-Verse, they actually lost 90,000 DSL subscribers thanks to the economy, competition, and according to Donovan - flawed execution."
For a net loss of 44,000?
See, some of us look for value in the service(s) we get - and services vary by area.
Bang-For-Buck, here, goes to Comcast.
AT&T here is a whopping 6mbps of you are close enough.
$35 upto 6mbps... no POTS so we get to add that, right?
"SERVICE REQUIRES: DSL modem/gateway/router and qualifying local service from AT&T at time of online order."
$35 and POTS... 
»www.att.com/Common/indc/popup/in···ions.htm
"Guaranteed Price for 24 Months: Price guarantee applies to monthly recurring charge for a period of 24 months from date of service, and does not include taxes, fees or excessive bandwidth usage charges."
WTF?
Yeah... Gots to gets me some of that.
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join:2007-12-26
Laguna Hills, CA
2 edits | Re: ATT better watch out Value is based on what you're using it for. Comcast got me for $56 for basic HSI unbundled ( the awesome 30% how dare you not have CATV penalty) when I had them. I used to be a Comcast sub so I know they nightmare they were but I've never had AT&T DSL (I had AT&T Broadband which was great before the Comcast nightmare came to town, they didn't have bundling penalties). | |
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join:2007-12-26
Laguna Hills, CA
3 edits | Re: ATT better watch out Someone would have to search far and wide to find POTS that isn't a total rip-off.
You didn't hear about AT&T's new plans? They're going the cap route AND apparently are going to charge overage fees!
I guess doubling the price of intro DSL didn't lose them enough customers. | |
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join:2004-06-22
North Richland Hills, TX | excessive bandwidth usage charges
yea what is this and what is the limit ???
I like how they d
Looks like Ill be re-adding another dsl line to my house so I can be sure to avoid this.
I wonder how they will do this for Uverse users since TV runs over ip and uses bandwith. And you can record up to 4 streas at anyone time.
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join:2000-04-08
Philadelphia, PA | Comcast is only hurting when its time for merit increases and bonus calculations..for employees that is...when it time to calculate the Execs they are handing out "dividends" and have had a banner year...the fuckers!!!!
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join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA
kudos:18 | Re: ATT better watch out said by bakalao2k:said by ninjatutle:Every little bit helps. You'll see the numbers drop as people switch around from deals to deals. I'm doing my best to get all of my friends and family off of Comcast. I'm sure Comcast will be calling often to try to lure back my mother Who's laughing then? Nearly $200/month from a single customer in lost revenue won't be taken so lightly. My last bill was $205 Mine was $156.58... but I have CDV and Blast too.
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join:2000-09-05
Dallas, TX | Here in Time Warner territory, AT&T U-Verse may be slower
than the competition's fastest offering, and more expensive,
but it is much more reliable.
At least in our neighborhood, Time Warner Cable is losing
customers to U-Verse. And their lawn fridge (VRAD) is only
about half a mile away.
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|  SteveI know your IP addressConsultant
join:2001-03-10
Yorba Linda, CA
kudos:5 | Or else what... ? | |
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| | bigunkGort, Klattu Birada Nikto
join:2001-02-10
USA | Re: ATT better watch out You'll have to wait and see. A good poker player keeps his cards close to the vest and has no tell for his opponents to pick up on. | |
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join:2002-09-16
Sacramento, CA
kudos:1 | Re: ATT better watch out If you can't make 100k subscriptions disappear in 48 hours I would quit trying to talk big. | |
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| | |  KrKHeavy Artillery For The Little GuyPremium
join:2000-01-17
Tulsa, OK | Airliner into Corporate HQ | |
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| | |  GNHTesla RecoiledPremium
join:1999-12-20
Arlington, TX
 ·RoadRunner Cable
 ·AT&T U-Verse
| said by bigunk:You'll have to wait and see. A good poker player keeps his cards close to the vest and has no tell for his opponents to pick up on. Problem is, they know what your cards are, bigunk. One says "I'm Stickin' With Ya!" The other says "See ya!"
That ain't a good hand, even in Baseball. | |
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join:2007-12-26
Laguna Hills, CA | said by Steve:Or else what... ? They'll have even worse add numbers. | |
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join:2001-04-17
Addison, IL | said by bigunk:This is a warning to you AT&T. Don't screw us around. Where are you going to go? There just are not any choices for broadband. You can have cable with a 250GB cap or DSL with metered usage. After ATT does this it probably will not be long before Verizon starts caps. | |
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 SrsBsns
join:2001-08-30
Oklahoma City, OK | Typical Sounds like an attempt to avoid upgrading speeds by metering data. The end result is less data going across the network due to increased cost on consumers but the company still rakes in billions. | |
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|  dvd536as Mr. Pink as they comePremium
join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ
kudos:4 | Re: Typical said by SrsBsns:Sounds like an attempt to avoid upgrading speeds by metering data. The end result is less data going across the network due to increased cost on consumers but the company still rakes in billions. BINGO!
oversell and no upgrades to network plus pay extra for substandard service.
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Actually I wouldn't be surprised if it did given that these companies can just lie lie lie in their ads and most people are none the wiser.
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|  en102Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA | Re: So... Big corp upper management is smoking some bad stuff.
Unfortunately, management is probably going to try and 'hide' that info, and boost their bottom line on the $/MB hoping that they'll keep customers by kicking sales somehow.
quote:
and according to Donovan - flawed execution
Well - YEAH.
Lets see, where shall I start.
- Uverse TV bundles, but cancelling new subscriptions to VoIP
- No Uverse Voice
- No Indie DSL + POTS --> Uverse transition
- Expensive service in a tight market.
- Difficult to order service (i.e. Internet only)
I was initially excited about service... then found out that voip wasn't available (Uverse Voice), then found out I couldn't port (Vonage or CallVantage) because of DSL line, then found out that AT&T wanted to push TV and not Internet... Now they're only starting to come around. Too late, TWC took my service.
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| | | Re: Capping speeds "they actually lost 90,000 DSL subscribers thanks to the economy, competition"
They lost 90,000 customers because for a few more dollars a month I could go from 2,500 down (Pro) to 13,000 download with Optimum...Boy that's a real tough decision
Maybe they should pull their heads out of the sand, or butts or wherever they have them stuck and look around before they have 0 customers!
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| | en102Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA | Re: Capping speeds In my case, they lost be because I went from
- POTS ($40 + $5/Canada + fees = ~$57/month)
- DSL Pro $27/month
= $84
To
- HSI 6Mbps/512kbps
- Digital + Analog TV
- Unlimited VoIP
= $89/month
Do the math.
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join:2001-08-29
way way out | Savings for who? "Raise of hands on who thinks any new pricing policy by AT&T results in lower broadband prices for anybody"
nope they will keep the base price for all users and charge heavy users out the ass.
making more money in the end.
lowering the amount of this so called "limit" till everyone is paying for services just like a cell phone...nickle and dime
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Hollywood, FL
1 edit | Time to switch? This should be interesting.
I work from home and use my connection all day every day. I depend on it, and generally speaking AT&T's service there has been just fine, no issues really in 4 years.
If they really make enough changes which make using it as I currently do a problem or vastly more expensive, then it might be time to move to something else, which more than likely means Comcast.
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| | U-Verse over IP? Doesn't ATT unlike cable actually move their video over an IP connection? | |
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| Re: U-Verse over IP? said by Uncle Paul:Doesn't ATT unlike cable actually move their video over an IP connection? Well, yeah, but what's that got to do with this?
U-verse Video over IP is a separate service from U-verse High Speed Internet. It's the possibility of caps or other bandwidth restrictions on HSI that we're talking about here. | |
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| |  MattAll noise, no signal.Premium
join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC
kudos:12 | Re: U-Verse over IP? said by MyDogHsFleas:said by Uncle Paul:Doesn't ATT unlike cable actually move their video over an IP connection? Well, yeah, but what's that got to do with this? U-verse Video over IP is a separate service from U-verse High Speed Internet. It's the possibility of caps or other bandwidth restrictions on HSI that we're talking about here. I think what he may be getting at, is how do you differentiate traffic - or rather - how will AT&T.
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join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC
kudos:12 | Re: U-Verse over IP? said by Uncle Paul:Exactly, IP traffic is IP traffic it's a 'burden on the system'. How is my watching a HD show from ATT different than me watching a HD show from iTunes? Well, actually that is different. When it comes from iTunes it has to traverse their interconnections to make it from the Apple servers to the AT&T network. Basically, it has to travel across the public internet.
For their TV streams, they pull them all in one time from the networks, distribute them to the local U-Verse enabled central offices, and then to each house. This way uses an order of magnitude less capacity.
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1 edit | This guy's funny fight against the "perception issue" that AT&T service is slower than cable.
Ummm it is slower. Lets evaluate. I had 5 meg internet through a cable modem. I received, at a minimum, 5 meg and usually 6-7 meg. On my oh so wonderful 6meg DSL line, I get 4.5meg on a good day. Doesn't take a genius to figure that out. DSL is slower unless you have a crappy cable connection or are lucky enough to live next door to the CO. | |
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racart
join:2006-08-15
Rockford, IL | Interesting Interesting.. ATT lost 90,000 DSL customers. So what do they do? Add a roadblock (caps) to using their service!!!!
I would think a good Marketing type could spin the recent Comcast caps into a clear ATT Advantage (even though the caps really do not affect most people) and create some interest and desire for ATT’s product….Maybe even adding some subscribers. The Comcast cap could be painted into some sort of gloomy burden placed on users, especially since you have no way of knowing how far away from the cap you are. The fear, no matter how remote, of hitting your cap could allow ATT to win some customers back. They should also plant the seed in users minds that the faster speed only allows you to reach your cap faster! | |
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| | Metered usage billing, that'll work Metered usage billing, yeah, that'll work out great.
If people were bailing on your DSL product because they either found cheaper/better else where or cause they couldn't afford DSL at all, then billing them on how much they use it (like cell phones), will only result in a higher and unpredictable bill, and will drive even more customers away. If that's their indent, then it'll be a good move. I won't stick with any ISP that wants to bill on usage at hyper-inflated rates. | |
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| slckusrPremium
join:2003-03-17
Maumee, OH
kudos:1 Reviews:
·AT&T U-Verse
·AT&T Midwest
| Re: Metered usage billing, that'll work this is exactly what i was thinking.
right now i enjoy my dsl service.
if it becomes a hassle to keep track of how much bandwidth im using, the lower cost isn't going to keep me a subscriber.
hassle > cost ill pay more if i don't have to worry about it. ( within a reasonable amount)
and if your going to meter me charge me less! | |
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join:2001-04-21
Minneapolis, MN
kudos:2
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| Re: Metered usage billing, that'll work said by tad2020:It's very likely than an usage based billing will be at hyper-inflated rates, like anything over $0.10 per GB. It costs more than $0.10/GB to get connectivity to your house.
If that number was real at all, people would skip right past ATT/Comcast/whoever and buy directly from their upstream provider at that pricing. | |
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| ripe for municipal deployment... there has got to be some of this comcast / at&t footprint that both companies are trying to squeeze with caps that is ripe for 3rd choice competition (municipal, or otherwise)! they want to play hardball, fine... do it a the risk of 3rd choice deployment! whatever kinds of broadband caps / limits they're trying to impose to protect profit & return on investment goes against the grain of the wholesale costs of bandwidth exchange in peering agreements. most carriers have had the covers upended to show that for the most part, the wholesale broadband industry is a cost neutral prospect, meaning between peers they break even on the bandwidth costs roughly through creative arrangements. so, the main costs associated with internet are mostly last mile.
a negative side effect of both telcos & cablecos getting into each others' businesses is that trying to protect the content which they try to sell by subscription is a conflict of interest when opening the floodgates of ultra speed broadband (10 - 100mbit+plus). caps are a clear indication of the waning interest in cable-tv subscriptions. | |
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join:2004-06-21
127.0.0.1
kudos:2 | Goverment bail out soon they might need a goverment bailout | |
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 guhunaR.I.P MikePremium
join:2001-03-31
Antioch, CA | Thats fine. Let them do it, I've just switched my sister and 2 friends OFF of att.
They are just shooting themselves in the feet! | |
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join:2000-12-16
Santa Monica, CA Reviews:
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·RoadRunner Cable
| Re: my landlord gives free dsl said by Blake SF :
15 rooms and all rooms are rented individually and they all have dsl internet. that has to be wrong. It's a three story house. ethernet wires look like spaghetti on the ouside walls. ATT should check this out
You would prefer that he did not provide "free" dsl, instead leaving each individual to order his own, full-price, 1-2 year term service? | |
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u3912974
join:2007-07-31
San Francisco, CA | 15 rooms and all rooms are rented individually and they all have dsl internet. that has to be wrong. It's a three story house. ethernet wires look like spaghetti on the outside walls. ATT should check this out | |
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DogfatherPremium
join:2007-12-26
Laguna Hills, CA | ...just pure greed. | |
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join:2001-10-03
Grand Rapids, MI
kudos:4
·AT&T U-Verse
| If I have 2 choices between a metered connection at this point I would choose a faster tier with Comcast unless at&t has a much higher cap. at&t isn't competitive enough to cap there connection. I'm willing to pay a premium with at&t because of the freedom there connection allows. If I lose that freedom, I might aswell get a faster connection. | |
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BF69Premium
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN | Is that at&t PAYS money to ESPN so it's customers can access ESPN360.com which shows streaming content all the time 24/7. Now at&t wants a cap because too many of its customers are accessing online video.
So if I get this straight at&t is telling me "Hey dump Charter for us because we have ESPN360 which you can watch live college football and basketball FREE all the time. Just remember if you actually bother to watch anything on ESPN360 we are going to have to cap your connection for excessive usage." | |
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 aaronwtPremium
join:2004-11-07
Woodbridge, VA | ARen't they offering Slow speed INternet?
I had 5mbs down/1mbs ups 11 years ago. | |
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rmdir
join:2003-03-13
Chicago, IL | I was just checking the web site to see what deals they have on dry line and OMFG "DSL without local phone
service—perfect for downloading movies."
Wait til the MPAA sees that! I'm sure they mean material in the public domain. | |
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