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Comments on news posted 2008-09-16 15:37:27: Taking their cue from Amazon's one-click ordering system and the RIAA's settlement-o-matic website, a company named Nexicon is developing a technology that tracks users who share music and film illegally, and then demands payment for the downloaded f.. ..
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 | | Track me?? How?? Sue Them! I want to know HOW they would "track" me if I did a P2P file transfer. If they DO, I will SUE THEM for invasion of privacy. Don't you need a warrant to track "personal" data??
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| |  funchordsHelloPremium,MVM
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kudos:5 | Re: Track me?? How?? Sue Them! said by JoeMama1 :
I want to know HOW they would "track" me if I did a P2P file transfer. If they DO, I will SUE THEM for invasion of privacy. Don't you need a warrant to track "personal" data??
SUE THEM!!!!
From what I've read, the only evidence they get is that they determine the file is their client's protected content and that your IP address is seen as a source for all or part of that file. It's a very low standard.
Your privacy is not invaded. Your IP address is disclosed by a tracker, server, or peer. Your IP address is similar to the numbers posted on the curb or outside wall of your home. It's not a secret.
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| | Sue Them! I want to know HOW they would "track" me if I did a P2P file transfer. Don't you have to be a "law enforcement agency"" and need a warrant to track "personal" data??
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| let them do as they want whatever happens will happen, and thankfully I have never stolen a song or movie, so its all fine for me. thankfully my family can make our own music which is way better than the store bought stuff, infact I do not think I have ever bought any from a store ever..no need to.
for people who think it is so cool to steal, why dont you try making your own song, or movie. The technical side may not be all that hard, but making something GOOD sure is.
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| Hughesnet I have had Direcway/Hughes for years. I've had trouble with them some until the latest system DW7000. It is blazing fast 1 to 1.5 kbps down most of the time- Kath159 I had this service for several years and hated every minute of it! DSL costs about half as much and is at least twice as fast. | |
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| | | The FAIL This system looks like a FAIL BOAT to me. it's breaching lots of stuff.
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1 edit | This company sounds like they should be in jail themselves "Nexicon used to be an online cigarette seller named Cyco.net that was sued for selling their product to minors, for failing to report cigarette sales and taxes; and for falsely advertising cigarettes as tax-free"
When you can't get good people to do things, hire lying crooks, and if that's not enough, get lying crooks that sell death to kids. | |
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Mullica Hill, NJ | Re: This company sounds like they should be in jail themselves its funny that a company that was causing major harm is now being hired to fight something that causes nearly zero harm.
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|  albie81Premium
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Mount Laurel, NJ | who suffers? the label? or the artist? soooo...
major labels through the RIAA is spending god knows how much money trying to recoup the revenue they are losing because they have been employing poor business models and "employee" relations for years...
you mean to tell me, that in 2008, in the age of digital music, no single legal music service was able to do what what a 20-something kid in europe in his dad's den was able to do with OiNK??? (i.e. bring together a place where EVERYTHING was available, drm free, from any artist, any label.)
the problem I have with legal music sites is several-fold..
1- DRM is stupid. If I buy it, I don't want to be told what to do with it. It's a SONG. I want to listen to it, copy it, share my listening experience with my friends/family. It's not a gun. I'm not buying something that is potentially harmful to the public and therefore my use needs to be monitored/limited. It's a SONG.
2- Availability is limited. If I want to legally download The Beatles, I have to go to one service. If I want Counting Crows, I have to go to another. etc. etc. The problem is, the major labels are all so proprietary, that they won't shake hands with different service sites. Did they do that back when brick/mortar stores ruled the music world? I don't remember thinking "Hey, that song I just heard on the radio is great, I wonder what record label they are on, and what music store I have to drive to, that the record label has a contract with, to buy it." No... I got in the car, I drove to Tower Records/Sam Goody/FYE/etc. and I bought the album. Enough said.
3- All of the above said... the artist sees precisely squat from album sales. Unless they are a very very successful artist (i.e. U2) they get absolutely raped by the label. So where is my incentive to spend money that I know isn't going to the guy who wrote/played the song?
This is a great read for anyone either questioning the validity of the music industry, or trying to "make it" themselves:
»www.negativland.com/albini.html
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| | | Possibility of abuse is emmense! OK, these guys are small time stock manipulators and will be gone soon. But consider how effective their scam could be. Considering that their system is admittedly automatic, simply feed any old email address list into one end, names of random songs into the other and start billing random people. Treat it as any spam system. If only 1 percent of the suckers pay, you only have to send out enough cheaply generated bills to make a lot of money. There are several outfits doing this with old uncollectable bills from record and book companies dating back decades. They just keep calling suckers day after day demanding payment and some of them actually pay. To avoid crashing their scheme they never actually take anybody to court. A combination of email and telephone harassment could make a con man rich with this scheme. | |
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| Re: Possibility of abuse is emmense! said by fjiea v :
OK, these guys are small time stock manipulators and will be gone soon. But consider how effective their scam could be. Considering that their system is admittedly automatic, simply feed any old email address list into one end, names of random songs into the other and start billing random people. Treat it as any spam system. If only 1 percent of the suckers pay, you only have to send out enough cheaply generated bills to make a lot of money. There are several outfits doing this with old uncollectable bills from record and book companies dating back decades. They just keep calling suckers day after day demanding payment and some of them actually pay. To avoid crashing their scheme they never actually take anybody to court. A combination of email and telephone harassment could make a con man rich with this scheme.
Better yet instead of titles of songs, say you have been downloading porn and unless you pay up we will turn you over to the police. | |
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| | the center of the universe? someone really needs to inform that the entertainment industry and the new MAFIA are not the center of the universe. they also need to tell everyone else to not bend over backwards with a half twist to appease the MAFIA in their quest to rule the digital world.
so, they think they can monitor bandwidth in real time for 'illegal' content. i say we should generate data that is legal and start swapping it around. the data should maximize the processing time required in an attempt to corrupt results or make the system overload.
i suppose one way to make this system worthless is shuttle all data through ssh tunnels, vpn tunnels, or maybe https. i'd like to seem them crack a few thousand ssh tunnels open in real time. | |
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