LowRider
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think this might come here? this isn't a practical law though. it would be nearly impossible to enforce. |
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TechieZero
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DrModem
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rgoulet
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| This doesn't go far enough
The terrorists can still coordinate their efforts using SMS, cell phones, encoded newspaper adverts, landline phones, and old fashioned face to face meetings in public.
Therefore, to ensure public safety, and thwart anyone now labeled or anyone who could be in the future labeled a terrorist, the Indian government should...
1. Make public phones illegal.
2. Force registration of all cell phones, requiring a passport and birth certificate as well as enforcing a 5 days waiting period to own one.
3. Make holding a conversation either by phone, cell phone, or in person, illegal without the supervision of an approved government agent.
4. Outlaw the sealing of envelopes so the postal service can easily monitor exchanges.
Should these measures fail India's government should must strictly regulate and monitor all human interaction, and possibly criminalize it. |
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TKJunkMail
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It may not help stop any terrorism, but if a large majority of users do lock down their APs, then it will have a nice side effect - it will lock out a lot of freeloaders and they will have to pay for internet access. It could give a nice boost to the ISPs and allow more money for broadband expansion.
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Quake110
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Re: This doesn't go far enough
Why stop there, they should start banning all sort of human interaction such as talking, gestures, writing... |
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psuvarna
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Re: Good public plan; but hard to enforce
The report doesn't give the complete picture. The terrorists were using unsecured hotspots to send emails to authorities claiming responsibility and in the process the officials spent unnecessary time interviewing people who had nothing to do with it. Recently, it was an American tourist who got into trouble because the terrorists hacked his email and he had to undergo a lot of interrogation because of this.
Mind you, wi-fi hotspots are not as prevalent in India as it is in the US. |
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"All ISPs may be instructed to ensure that their subscribers using wireless devices must use effective authentication mechanisms and permit access to internet to only authorised persons using wireless devices"
I don't seen any feasible way of an ISP determining one has a wireless router at his/her premises, let alone ensuring that it is encrypted. |
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They can't crack blackberrys what 128 or 64 bit training but they think that wep is secure. bah.
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swhx7
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Re: We'll be next
The only reason it will be unenforceable is that the government is planning to have ISPs enforce it, and they're not in a position to do so. Even if they require use of their own router for connection (which would be bad enough), users could work around it by installing their own on the LAN.
But it could be enforced by a prohibition addressed to users. A "wardriving" vehicle could go around and check for unsecured wireless, trace it to the access point and prosecute the owner.
There have been some proposals like this at the local level in USA (based on malware, ID theft, filesharing, etc.). |
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Re: Good public plan; but hard to enforce
said by TKJunkMail  :It could give a nice boost to the ISPs Some days you are brilliant, said by TKJunkMail : and allow more money for broadband expansion. and some days you are really a comic-book character.
We've had essentially no broadband expansion in the past two years. Flat. Nothing. We've fallen from the top 5 to below the top 20 in broadband penetration. It's not for the lack of demand: wireless data plans have tripled or quadrupled in their income over the same time. But instead of digging new ground (roughly $1000-2000 per new customer), it's cheaper for ISPs to buy one another -- and, in the few markets where there are choices -- influence customers to switch.
There would be no broadband expansion if this came here (which it won't).
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jssshashi
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Re: ISPs doing the enforcing?
The basic internet install + PC setup is still done by the ISP
though broadband, some isp's have a username password system (like dialup) that needs to be launched from the connecting PC.
Broadband penetration is still not so deep in India.
villages are still getting phones now.
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Re: Good public plan; but hard to enforce
said by TKJunkMail :I It could give a nice boost to the ISPs and allow more money for corporate greed expansion. fixed for you |
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TKJunkMail
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said by funchords : said by TKJunkMail : and allow more money for broadband expansion. and some days you are really a comic-book character. Sinking to the level of the usual flamers here. Disappointing!!
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funchords
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| said by TKJunkMail :Sinking to the level of the usual flamers here. Disappointing!! No, the usual flamers don't give you any credit when it is due and don't take the time to explain what they think is wrong with your position. Hopefully, I'm not like that.
It was also meant to be a bit in jest, sorry that was not communicated well. Please take it as such.
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ebubman
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i wonder if companies in india have call centers in the united states? |
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Re: Good public plan; but hard to enforce
said by funchords :some days you are really a comic-book character. Pot, meet kettle. |
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| said by Dogfather :said by funchords :some days you are really a comic-book character. Pot, meet kettle. Well you and I have gone rounds, too, but again -- I have standards. If I treat you badly, please call me on it.
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Nightshade
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Re: ISPs doing the enforcing?
said by swhitney2003 :"All ISPs may be instructed to ensure that their subscribers using wireless devices must use effective authentication mechanisms and permit access to internet to only authorised persons using wireless devices" I don't seen any feasible way of an ISP determining one has a wireless router at his/her premises, let alone ensuring that it is encrypted. Me either. While the law I think is a good idea, I see no practical way of enforcing it. The only thing I can think of is accessing the unsecured hotspot and maybe print out the network information somehow? *shrugs* I dunno sounds like to me it would be a lot of effort and work for the police to do on something that would be only a non-criminal violation.
There is something that a ISP can do when it comes to new customers, have the tech ask if the customer has a wireless router and if the customer does, ask if he/she has it secure. If the customer doesn't have a secure hotspot the tech should offer to secure it for the customer. Something like this shouldn't take the tech more than five minutes to do.
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i think if routers had a standardized OS, then ISPs would be more willing to support customer owned routers.
though i guess they could just say they only openly assist in the configuration of Linksys and Netgear routers(which wouldnt be any different then how they only do Windows and Mac atm computer wise).
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