  RobIn Deo speramus, God Bless the USAPremium
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kudos:2 | RIAA should be sued.. For abusing our legal system. | |
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Mount Airy, MD | Re: RIAA should be sued.. said by Rob:For abusing our legal system. The RIAA is not the only party guilty of this sort of activity.
The entire civil legal system in the USA needs reform to prevent this sort of abuse. We can start by mandating that winning civil lawsuits requires the same burden of proof that is required for a conviction in a criminal case. That is, a defendant is presumed "not liable" until he or she is proved liable by way of evidence that meets the "beyond a reasonable doubt" legal definition.
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Stepford, CA | Re: RIAA should be sued.. said by pnh102:We can start by mandating that winning civil lawsuits requires the same burden of proof that is required for a conviction in a criminal case. That is, a defendant is presumed "not liable" until he or she is proved liable by way of evidence that meets the "beyond a reasonable doubt" legal definition. Good luck with getting preponderance of the evidence ratcheted up to beyond a reasonable doubt. The deal is all but signed by the Senate to have the U.S. Atty General bring **AA copyright suits against alleged infringers. Oh, and if the $enate pa$$e$ this bill, our tax dollars will finance the lawsuits . On behalf of the **AAs.
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| | | | | Re: RIAA should be sued.. DOJ enforce civil copyright claims will push it to "beyond a reasonable doubt" as well the right of jury trial | |
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Stepford, CA | Re: RIAA should be sued.. said by Joe12345678:DOJ enforce civil copyright claims will push it to "beyond a reasonable doubt" as well the right of jury trial And if you buy that then I have some beautiful ocean front property for you in Nebraska.
Notwithstanding your naivete, these cases won't be converted from civil to criminal...if you read the substance of the bill in question, you'll see that they will -in fact- remain in civil court, except the **AAs want the DoJ to bring suit and police their alleged copyrights for them. Nothing changes but for the fact the **AAs questionable suits will now be financed on the taxpayer dime instead of their own.
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| said by Rob:For abusing our legal system. The RIAA bought and paid for our legal system to be manipulated and changed in their favor by way or payoff, lobbyist dollars and pandering to politico's.
The RIAA and politicians who took their money should be investigated and outed. The lawyer should start that movement in retaliation. | |
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Michigan City, IN | said by Rob:For abusing our legal system. LOL the RIAA has no case. What a fucking waste of our court time.
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|  TCubPremium
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kudos:4 | Haha RIAA 0 United States Internet Users 1.
How could they possibly find it out to try to punish someone for blogging about how what they do isn't necessary? | |
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The RIAA is now targeting Beckerman, claiming he's a "vexatious" litigator...
I guess it takes one to know one
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The RIAA is now targeting Beckerman, claiming he's a "vexatious" litigator...
I guess it takes one to know one Because we all know a defense attorney would never do anything to hide evidence or drag out a case and in general do everything legal or not to deny justice.
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| | | | Re: Sound Familiar said by fAcEtIOUs:said by nightdesigns: quote:
The RIAA is now targeting Beckerman, claiming he's a "vexatious" litigator...
I guess it takes one to know one Because we all know a defense attorney would never do anything to hide evidence or drag out a case and in general do everything legal or not to deny justice. And we also all know how the RIAA uses bullying tactics to win cases that have no legal merit.
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Saint Louis, MO | Re: Sound Familiar said by moonpuppy:And we also all know how the RIAA uses bullying tactics to win cases that have no legal merit. Most of the cases never go to trial. They bully the "defendant" who agrees to pay...normally a reduced amount than what accused of. Most of the accused have no way to defend nor afford to hire a good attorney....so they just roll over.
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Baton Rouge, LA | I know!! It's a shame the RIAA even has to do this! The RIAA is trying to do what is right through honorable actions and this guy keeps on dishonestly defending the very thieves that the RIAA is trying to bring to Justice.
History shows that the RIAA is very competent and has been nothing but honest about it's intentions and respectful of the law.
This guy is getting what he deserves as no one should be able to step up and defend someone against the RIAA. That is just plain wrong.
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kudos:1 | Re: Sound Familiar Dammit, I need to find a better brand of Sarcasmometer, people keep breaking mine!
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| said by NetAdmin1:said by fAcEtIOUs:Because we all know a defense attorney would never do anything to hide evidence or drag out a case and in general do everything legal or not to deny justice. Do you have proof that the lawyer in this case acted in such a manner or are you just painting every defense lawyer with a mile wide brush? A mile? This guys' mile wide brush is just a pinstripe.
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The RIAA is now targeting Beckerman, claiming he's a "vexatious" litigator...
I guess it takes one to know one Because we all know a defense attorney would never do anything to hide evidence or drag out a case and in general do everything legal or not to deny justice. Isn't there a phrase, "1% of lawyers give the other 99% a bad name" | |
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| Vexatious? Oh, if that went through, then any lawyer that did more than one of a type of case would be too. You might not like him, but he still has freedom of speech.
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| | Sounds like another lawsuit.... ....against the RIAA for libel.
Idiots don't know when to give up and walk away. | |
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| | Sore Loser Awwwwwww you lying assclowns at the RIAA didn't win your questionably legal lawsuit and now your going to throw a tantrum. Awwww poor babies.... | |
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1 edit |  Pot, meet kettle, RIAA
litigation?
Why not ask Marie Lindor, Tanya Anderson, or any of the
other people they've pursued legal vendettas against?
IMO, they should sanction the RIAA for abusing the legal
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Not only did the RIAAtards have to pay their own (probably exorbitant) legal fees, but also the defendant's... CLASSIC! Hope to see more like this in the future. | |
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Yes, I'm sure a company that has sued 30,000 people, including dead people, and can't even get this filing correct is a fine upstanding organization that is being unfairly targeted by Mr. Beckerman. | |
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kudos:5 | Re: RIAA can't even get filing right In the end, the lawyers get it all anyways. | |
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North Babylon, NY | Go away Just shut up and go away, you bunch of whiny major label asskissers. | |
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Seattle, WA | Wow.... I'm surprised but, at the same time, I'm not surprised. In my eyes this proves without a doubt that the RIAA is grasping at straws. It's like the first lawsuit....was their first shot of heroin or first hit of ecstasy... or (name your drug)and now they cannot get enough of it. | |
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Dallas, TX | Re: Wow.... Powdered Cocaine, more likely.
That seems to be the drug of choice in Hollywood (and
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Hollywood, FL | Laughable suit. Wow must be a slow day on the threat letter front for them to file this drivel.
Honestly if he's guilty of this then so is the RIAA's legal team.
Pretty pathetic attempt. | |
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Madison, NJ | This could backfire big time Beckerman appears a very effective lawyer who takes his role in the Judicial system very seriously. For the RIAA to "take him on" in thew same Judicial system could well backfire if Judges feel this action is not only unwarranted but is systemic of the RIA bullying quasi-legal approach. | |
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RIAA is a joke. Now they want to sue a litigator for representation? When anyone does this, judges get pissed off. | |
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Missoula, MT | I agree... his ability to show them for the criminal element they are must be quite troublesome, and that he's beaten them at their own game over and over must really be an annoyance to them.
I hope he nails their legal asses to the wall. | |
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| This is Great! Think about what this will do for Ray Beckerman. They're suing him because he beat them. And now they've just gotten him major press! He could never buy this kind of advertising. I have a feeling his caseload is about to fill with cases vs the RIAA.
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Simi Valley, CA | the RIAA just about guarantees Beckerman's Blog will live on You just know that at least his current blog will end up being spread all over the internet. They just get stupider and stupider. They just created a folk hero against the evil **AAs. | |
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RIAA's action is known as a SLAPP SUIT.
Attorney Beckerman can post anything on his blog about cases he is defending, as long as the information is not covered by attorney client privilege. The RIAA has filed a slapp suit. The reason businesses file slapp suits is to deprive citizens of their right to free speech. These suits are filed to shut up citizens complaining to the government or press about some action the businesses are about to engage or are engaging in that will adversely affect them. One purpose of a slapp suit is to force those citizens filing complaints to pay attorneys excessive legal fees to defend them against the suits. The slapp suit serves as punishment for filing the complaints. Usually when a decision is made the business dismisses the complaint while the citizens are left with huge legal bills.