  Steve BPremium
join:2004-08-02
Seattle, WA | Well well... I'm glad to see that Verizon Wireless is at least giving customers the upfront choice. | |
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 | | | Re: Well well... said by Steve B:I'm glad to see that Verizon Wireless is at least giving customers the upfront choice. Well, with the takeover of Alltel, that is the reason for the change. Alltel has been doing it for years. 
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| | Progress Well its progress I guess. Now we need to be able to have just stores that sell phones that can be used with any carrier and can easily be moved from carrier to carrier. | |
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| | | Re: Progress that will only work when all of the carriers changes to SIM cards. which will likely never happen in this country. | |
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| |  Get your Android phone for CDMA and no Verizon contract
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| Re: Get your Android phone for CDMA and no Verizon contract Why do you need VZ for the Android phone? TM does NOT require a contract. They offer month to month service. The were actually the first nation wide provider to do it and DID NOT raise their fees for it like the GoPhone.
Where else are you going to get 300minutes of calling, unlimited night and weekends, MyFav5 and nationwide coverage without a contract? for $41 after taxes. Surely not VZW. | |
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2 edits | Re: Get your Android phone for CDMA and no Verizon contract said by hottboiinnc:Why do you need VZ for the Android phone? How about because regular T-Mobile coverage sucks in my area and has little 3G at all. And Verizon has excellent coverage and EVDO capability. Examples of coverage at NJ shore:
T-Mobile coverage Jersey Shore
Verizon coverage Jersey Shore
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| | | | | Re: Get your Android phone for CDMA and no Verizon contract most of TM's coverage doesn't have 3G. | |
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| VZW has been offering month-to-month (via INpulse) for several years (my first cellular phone was via INpulse in 2005), and the previous poster bragging on VZW coverage is right to do so, as VZW does have fantastic coverage. The biggest quibble *I* had with INpulse wasn't their coverage (or even their rates, as most INpulse customers get nights and weekends free, and all VZW-to-VZW calls are free regardless of day or time), but their handset selection. As far as VZW's coverage goes, I could (and have) taken a VZW phone into the center of Sprint Country (Las Vegas, NV; specifically, the Strip) and have better coverage than Sprint.
And it's not the merger with Alltel that's driving the push to month-to-month, but the drying up of credit overall. The impact is spreading beyond housing to more general financing, and the impact is reaching VZW; how long before it reaches AT&T Mobility or Sprint? | |
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join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC
kudos:12 |  On the surface
Unless you know where to buy an unlocked CDMA device (and face it, Joe Sixpack doesn't) and are willing to pay full-price for it, this is a non-event. I think most people will be surprised when they see the actual retail price of the phones that Verizon et al subsidize. It's much more than 50% of the cost, sometimes upwards of 75%.
When faced with a $200-$600 phone versus a $0-$299 phone with a 2-year contract, most people will take the contract.
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| | | Re: On the surface The thing is if phones have to start directly competing and not locked to carrier they may just start dropping in price. | |
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| | | Or it could be like Metro PCS and the like in which you can have a locked regular phone from whatever provider and they flash it and activate it on their service... That seems more like what they're doing... | |
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| | | | Re: On the surface that only works with certain phones according to their website. But MetroPCS needs to buy up Cricket from Leap and merge with Revol.US here in Ohio and really take on the big boys. | |
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|  en102Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA | I suspect that 'non contract' pricing will go up. Just like it has for items like DSL.
$50/month for 700 minutes + subsidized phone w 2year
while during that 2 year service prices will go up
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1 edit | said by Matt:When faced with a $200-$600 phone versus a $0-$299 phone with a 2-year contract, most people will take the contract. Bingo. The vast majority of customers signing up for new service want 'free' phones. There ain't no free phones and there never were. This'll be an education for them.
But this will be great for the thriving stolen phone market though. If you own a CDMA phone when this kicks in, you better watch it like a hawk before it grows legs. The copper thieves might even change professions. | |
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| | | I think if Joe Sixpack wants a new phone with the newest features then he/she will have to come up with the money. But you can find most cheap phones on ebay for verizon. One thing about Verizon phones, they are not locked. Also if you can find a way to flash a phone from another CDMA provider then that's another avenue to take. Google has tons of info on flashing. | |
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| | MattAll noise, no signal.Premium
join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC
kudos:12 | Re: On the surface The eBay phones are almost as bad as the price Verizon wants. I've looked multiple times. And the phones for Verizon ARE locked ... you can flash to another carrier's firmware, but you can't take that phone to another carrier. Even after you flash to an Alltel firmware for instance, half the Verizon features don't work.
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|  dnoyeBFerrous Phallus
join:2000-10-09
Southfield, MI | You can expect the price of phones to fall. They are way over priced under the current model. I suspect the retailers get some tax or other benefit by acting like the phones actual price is $600. Once customers start buying these things directly, I predict you will see their price drop significantly.
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| Re: On the surface said by dnoyeB:You can expect the price of phones to fall.......I predict you will see their price drop significantly. I don't think so. Cell-phone companies aren't interested in selling phones; they're interested in selling cell-phone service. So unless the price of the phone is subsidized by a required additional data plan, I don't expect any significant price drops anytime soon. | |
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| | Pre-Paid Isn't this what you call pre-paid service Track Phone and the likes?... | |
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| iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2 Reviews:
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| Re: Pre-Paid Verizon, on some of their plans at least, has more features and lower pricing than prepaid.
My question is whether you could grab an INPulse phone, then activate it on Verizon's contract month-to-month service. Some phones are cheaper that way. | |
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join:2004-04-15
Hollister, CA | o This is awesome but to little to late. | |
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| overpriced phones verizon doesn't have much to lose by doing this. all the other companies aren't offering much compeition. the good news is that there are plenty of smart cdma phones with wifi/voip capability out there... just finding a good deal on one will be a difficult. | |
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| | ??? Just curious ??? I canceled my cellphone, I DIDNT pay the ETF, Would they allow me back @ just month to month and NO ETF??? | |
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| Re: ??? Just curious ??? said by FIOSIsAwesome :
I canceled my cellphone, I DIDNT pay the ETF, Would they allow me back @ just month to month and NO ETF??? I would imagine they'll still run a credit check for customers to qualify them for the pricing, so if you stiffed them for the ETF, don't be surprised if they require a deposit. | |
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join:2008-02-13
Hingham, MA | Were you charged an ETF and just didn't pay it, or did you cancel after the end of your contract? If it's the first, you might still be in their system and they could try to charge you the ETF. (and Verizon Wireless apparently actually has a billing system that can keep track of customers, unlike Verizon's landline division) | |
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 dadkinsCan you do Blu?Premium,MVM
join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA
kudos:18 | Not shown on VZ website Ok, just looked over the website...
InPulse is there... but it is far from *new*.
Anyone got a link to this *new* plan?
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| | | Re: Not shown on VZ website "All of Verizon's service tiers are now available at the same price point as long-term contracts,..."
It looks like the prices will remain the same. What changes are the phones will have to be bought full price instead of being subsidized.
I think this is a good thing, even though I'm already out of a contract since last year. There are many outfits where you can buy a CDMA phone including eBay. One such place is wirefly without having to pay so much for it.
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| Change the drop-down selection to "month-to-month".
There you will see the full (unsubsidized) price you will pay. However, every handset is now available, unlike INpulse, which has a much slimmer/bleaker selection of handsets (that was my only fault with INpulse, not the service, or even the rates, as they were the best, for me, of the month-to-month providers). | |
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join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
kudos:1 | this is green This will make used phones a hotter commodity, and less e-waste. 99% of cellphone users can use a 5-7 year old phone. There are friends of mine who never knew their phones have Vcast or Vcast Music capabilities on them, they just bought the phone for the looks.
Most of my family uses a 2001 released phone from VZ. It was the first color screened phone offered by VZ. It has 1X, WAP 1.0 minibrowser, text messaging, phone book, call history, loading ringtones (although in QCP format), voice dialing, Get-It-Now, Analog (useless now), speakerphone, earphone jack, data cable.
Easier to say what it doesn't have, camera, GPS navigation, QWERTY Keyboard, Vcast, Bluetooth, flash card, VZ GUI. What non-geek needs that anyways? | |
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|  jester121Premium
join:2003-08-09
Lake Zurich, IL
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| Re: this is green said by patcat88:This will make used phones a hotter commodity, and less e-waste. 99% of cellphone users can use a 5-7 year old phone. Other than old people, I know no one who uses a phone that's more than 2 years old. Sales figures from the manufacturers would indicate that a huge majority of people buy new phones every 2 years or less. | |
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| |  KrKHeavy Artillery For The Little GuyPremium
join:2000-01-17
Tulsa, OK | Re: this is green From observation, I'd have to disagree. I see many phones that are 3-5 years old in operation all the time. | |
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join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
kudos:1 | Re: this is green said by jferrante:I am an "old people" and just bought a new Motorola e815 because it has much better signal strength than most current phones. Same here. I've killed it accidentally and replaced it with same model. | |
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| | Woo-Hoo! I hope so. I wanted a wireless air card but I didnt want to get into a contract for it. Does anyone know if this extends to the wireless cards too?? | |
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| Re: Woo-Hoo! said by mitchell: I hope so. I wanted a wireless air card but I didnt want to get into a contract for it. Does anyone know if this extends to the wireless cards too?? Yes, it does. On the website you just have to select the dropdown for month to month. Without a contract the wireless modems are priced from $199.99 to $269.99. | |
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join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN | Re: Woo-Hoo! said by music4praise:said by mitchell: I hope so. I wanted a wireless air card but I didnt want to get into a contract for it. Does anyone know if this extends to the wireless cards too?? Yes, it does. On the website you just have to select the dropdown for month to month. Without a contract the wireless modems are priced from $199.99 to $269.99. Of course you could always use your cell as a modem. | |
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| | | Bingo!
This is the whole play. Get as many people to jump on month to month Verizon with overages. I think there must be too many people locking in 2 year unlimited data contracts on Altel with My Circle.
This month to month thing will not look so good when people start bumping into that nice "little" 5GB cap.
I could go without hearing about the overage stories that will come, but it seems the major phone and cable companies are not finished with the banking model of trying to screw as many of us as they can.
I wonder if they will drive the last nail in the coffin.
Capitalism is fine until it is used to destroy our way of life.
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BF69Premium
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN | What about security depsoits? When my sister tried to get verizon service she had to get a credit check and they came back and said they wanted $400 security deposit. I can't see them charging $400 for a month to month plan especially when they aren't giving you a discount on a phone. | |
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|  NY TelPremium
join:2004-04-09
Smithtown, NY
kudos:3
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| said by BF69:When my sister tried to get verizon service she had to get a credit check and they came back and said they wanted $400 security deposit. I can't see them charging $400 for a month to month plan especially when they aren't giving you a discount on a phone. On the contrary I see them continuing the deposit scenario all the same.
They want to minimize their exposure to bad debt so If your credit is less than stellar, the only thing that has changed is that you are not locked into a long term contract.
The person "intending to not pay the bills" could still run up a huge bill and not pay it, irrespective of contract versus no-contract.
The discount on the phone has nothing to do with the deposit and yes I understand that you get the phone cheaper because the payments are spread out longer etc. but don't expect them to lighten up their requirements if you are a risk. That is a totally different issue. | |
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| | BF69Premium
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN | Re: What about security depsoits? said by NY Tel:said by BF69:When my sister tried to get verizon service she had to get a credit check and they came back and said they wanted $400 security deposit. I can't see them charging $400 for a month to month plan especially when they aren't giving you a discount on a phone. On the contrary I see them continuing the deposit scenario all the same. They want to minimize their exposure to bad debt so If your credit is less than stellar, the only thing that has changed is that you are not locked into a long term contract. The person "intending to not pay the bills" could still run up a huge bill and not pay it, irrespective of contract versus no-contract. The discount on the phone has nothing to do with the deposit and yes I understand that you get the phone cheaper because the payments are spread out longer etc. but don't expect them to lighten up their requirements if you are a risk. That is a totally different issue. Well first of all no one is going to shell out $400 deposit for phone service that may last one or 2 months. Might as well get a years worth of pre-paid. Secondly if they are worried about overages there is no reason why, like pre-paid, when you hit your minute limits you get your service cut off.
Also to say the cost of the phone is a differnt issue doesn't make sense. If the phone company is givng you a $200 discount on tehphone you can be damn sure that part of that $400 is there because they want to make sure if you bail out after a few months they recoup that money. The whole reason why you'd get a $200 discount is because they a re counting on 24 payments of $40 or more to cover the cost of the discount on the phone. If there is no contract and there is no discount then there is no expectation of 24 consecutive payments. Ergo there shouldn't be a security deposit. Besides there are 22 week-days in a month. Times that by 15 hours durring which minutes are charged that's 19,800 minutes. Now if my plan is 450 minutes and .45 cents overage, that's $8700 is posisble overages. $400 isn't even 5% of that amount. So to say that $400 is needed to coverage overages is silly. Talking just 62 minutes a day( durring peak times ) would not only use up all my minutes but use more than $400 in overages. | |
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| T-Mobile has been doing this for a long time We've been toying with going over to Flexpay-Monthly with T-mobile for months. Seeing Verizon offering this is sort of a me to.
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»www.t-mobile.com/shop/plans/flex···OnsiteAd
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| BF69Premium
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN | Re: T-Mobile has been doing this for a long time Well that's ncie but you can't get T-mobile in my area. | |
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