cdru
Go Colts
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join:2003-05-14
Fort Wayne, IN | Thanks Verizon
With all the other boneheaded moves that Verizon has done in the past, I applaud Verizon's decision to remain cap and filter free. |
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Mactron
el camino Real
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join:2001-12-16
CM94sv
| "...and they've chosen their words carefully, making sure they don't rule out the possibility."
Once they are more established in their planed build out, Caps n-stuff will surely come. Their not going to spoil the Fiber hoopla party while their still becoming a player. 
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If only the Verizon CSRs worked this well. |
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N3OGH
Bear patrol must be working like a charm
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join:2003-11-11
Philly burbs | reply to cdru
For now...... |
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BF69
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN
| reply to Mactron
said by Mactron  :"...and they've chosen their words carefully, making sure they don't rule out the possibility."Once they are more established in their planed build out, Caps n-stuff will surely come. Their not going to spoil the Fiber hoopla party while their still becoming a player. More established? Yeah we're talking 10 years minimum. By then I certianly hope capacity issues won't be a problem for any ISP. |
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JasonOD
@comcast.net | I expect......
both VZ & ATT to give Comcast a few PR bodyblows in the coming months over this. And then slip in some caps of their own. |
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v35_pilot
Whoops, there goes another AMU
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join:2005-12-12
Fayetteville, NY
 ·ViaTalk
 ·Verizon FIOS
 ·Sprint Mobile Broa..
| Just a matter of time
In my opinion metered billing is something that Verizon management is salivating over in the back rooms of their office buildings and it will be here eventually.
For now we all had better enjoy the party, for these will soon become the "good ole days." |
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EPS
join:2008-02-13
Hingham, MA | reply to JasonOD
Re: I expect......
Our caps are 500 GB, unlike Comcast's measly 250 GB cap! (But weren't you uncapped yesterday?) |
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ShadezeRO
join:2006-04-24
Fort Lauderdale, FL | Ehh....
That seems about right, maybe a little higher if anything.
Within 10 years, I'm pretty sure the new base package will be 20mb/5 at least. |
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nasadude
join:2001-10-05
Rockville, MD
 ·Comcast
| reply to Mactron
Re: Thanks Verizon
said by Mactron :Once they are more established in their planed build out, Caps n-stuff will surely come. Their not going to spoil the Fiber hoopla party while their still becoming a player. translation: when they stop getting their broadband and voice lunch eaten by cable and when they have video up on all their fiber systems, they will be just like the other guys, caps and all. |
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jammmin
join:2000-12-14
Upper Marlboro, MD
| Great marketing opportunity for FIOS
Great marketing opportunity for Verizon here.
They need to go on a marketing blitz right now comparing Verizon to Comcast.
Comcast
1. Throttling
2. Monthly Caps
3. Slower speed
4. Congestion on nodes at night because of its shared network
Verizon
1.No throttling
2. No monthly caps
3. Fastest internet
4. Same speed 24/7
FIOS could possibly win over millions of new customers this way. BTW, all my internet problems from the past few years where recently solved when I switched from Comcast to Verizon and I have never been happier. |
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openbox9
join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA
 ·AT&T Southeast
| reply to BF69
Re: Thanks Verizon
Unfortunately, I believe capacity issues will always be a problem for ISPs. Not because infrastructure investments aren't being made, but because demanding applications are so much easier and cheaper to produce and deploy than the infrastructure necessary to support them. |
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Raven313
join:2001-12-17
Crofton, MD |  Anyone Reject FIOS?
Does anyone here have FIOS available but opt to go with another ISP? If so, why? |
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major marco
Res Firma Mitescere Nescit
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join:2003-02-13
Stepford, CA
clubs:
| Common Sense 101
Unless and until VZ makes FIOS available in large metropolitan markets on the west coast, they are very far from becoming a significant "player" in the BB market. Right now they're nothing but an east coast one trick pony, so of course mgt is going to pretend the company would not embrace caps. |
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v35_pilot
Whoops, there goes another AMU
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join:2005-12-12
Fayetteville, NY
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·Verizon FIOS
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| said by major marco :Right now they're nothing but an east coast one trick pony, so of course mgt is going to pretend the company would not embrace caps. Actually a two trick pony (TV and Internet), and two pretty good tricks at that. |
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major marco
Res Firma Mitescere Nescit
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join:2003-02-13
Stepford, CA
clubs:
| said by v35_pilot :Actually a two trick pony (TV and Internet), and two pretty good tricks at that. Eh, fair enough. I stand corrected. |
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tschmidt
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join:2000-11-12
Milford, NH
 ·Hollis Hosting
·Verizon Online DSL
·Fairpoint Communic..
| reply to openbox9
Re: Thanks Verizon
All networks have choke points. What differs is where they occur and how much it costs to increase capability. Raw bandwidth is cheap it is the cable that is expensive. The most expensive "cable" is customer first-mile access network.
Choke point for FTTP and DSL is at CO or DSLAM. It is relatively cheap to increase transmission performance.
Choke point for Cable DOCSIS is at the node, making it relatively expensive to increase capability.
That is why you see Cablecos going after "bandwidth hogs" and not Telcos. Verizon is using that as a marketing tool, they would be stupid not to. Verizon also wants to use FIOS to roll out IPTV. Cable will be hard pressed to compete due to limited network capacity.
/tom |
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tschmidt
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join:2000-11-12
Milford, NH
·Hollis Hosting
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| reply to v35_pilot
Re: Common Sense 101
said by v35_pilot : Actually a two trick pony (TV and Internet), Do I hear three-tricks? They do telephony after all, both wired and wireless.
Here in NH with the sale to Fairpoint they are back to one trick - Wireless only. 
/tom |
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v35_pilot
Whoops, there goes another AMU
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join:2005-12-12
Fayetteville, NY
·ViaTalk
·Verizon FIOS
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| said by tschmidt :Do I hear three-tricks? They do telephony after all, both wired and wireless. Personally I didn't think their telephony was worthy as it has been around forever and is about as exciting as watching the pony go poop.  |
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v35_pilot
Whoops, there goes another AMU
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join:2005-12-12
Fayetteville, NY
·ViaTalk
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| reply to Raven313
Re: Anyone Reject FIOS?
said by Raven313 :Does anyone here have FIOS available but opt to go with another ISP? If so, why? There are neighbors in my small development that choose to remain with Time Warner cable rather than go with FiOS Internet simply for the "triple play convenient billing" service.
Really bizarre to me why someone would choose "convenient billing" over best-of-breed but differences are what make the world so interest. |
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iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
·Comcast
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| reply to v35_pilot
Re: Common Sense 101
True, but they can do quadruple play (wireline, wireless. internet, TV) with the phone line going over fiber (not even really VoIP) whereasMSOs can't do that. As an added bonus, you can put VoIP on FiOS and they won't complain..and the service will work great! |
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