EveryName
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Montreal | Oh great!
I'm going to cancel my service in that case. I need GPS, and the GPS service which Bell supplies for $10 a month is absolute CRAP! Google Maps is the best, and if they start throttling my GPS traffic, GOOD BYE BELL! |
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TKJunkMail
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|  Good question asked at blog post that started this story
»www.wellingtonfund.com/blog/2008···terally/
# xxxxxxx Says:
September 24th, 2008 at 1:07 pm
Before this thing gets too far, do we have any validation of this internal memo?
Don’t get me wrong, I’d not be surprised to see the rusted sinking hull of Bell make such a move, but is there any credible evidence that this memo exists? No confirmation of this internal memo other than that post by an anonymous person at the web site.
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hurleyp
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Ottawa, ON | Hey, it was on a blog - it must be true. 
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corster
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said by TKJunkMail  :» www.wellingtonfund.com/blog/2008···terally/# xxxxxxx Says:
September 24th, 2008 at 1:07 pm
Before this thing gets too far, do we have any validation of this internal memo?
Don’t get me wrong, I’d not be surprised to see the rusted sinking hull of Bell make such a move, but is there any credible evidence that this memo exists? No confirmation of this internal memo other than that post by an anonymous person at the web site. The first mention of this I found was on Hofo, and it was posted by a very reputable member who works at a Bell dealer. It'd be one thing if it was in fact an Anonymous person or a brand new member that posted it, but I see no reason why this specific member would post it if the memo in fact didn't exist. |
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TigerLord
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| Is this legal?
I am not very keen on law, but this strikes me as illegal, for all my common sense tells me. Is it even allowed to sabotage a service and hold them ransom by forcing a fee to get the device to work properly in the first place?
Hopefully someone can enlighten me! |
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TKJunkMail
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Re: Good question asked at blog post that started this story
said by corster :The first mention of this I found was on Hofo, and it was posted by a very reputable member who works at a Bell dealer. It'd be one thing if it was in fact an Anonymous person or a brand new member that posted it, but I see no reason why this specific member would post it if the memo in fact didn't exist. Any link to that? Otherwise it is still unsubstantiated rumor.
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griff1013
join:2002-01-10
Virginia Beach, VA | reply to EveryName
Re: Oh great!
Verizon and T-Mobile charge $10 a month. I just checked T-Mobile today as I looked over their 8820. Lady said to get GPS to work, it would be $10 a month. I am not sure if you get an unlocked phone you can bypass this "feature." |
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funchords
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2 edits | reply to TKJunkMail
Re: Good question asked at blog post that started this story
Good grief -- I think one source is here at DSLReports!
A commenter on Geist's blog identifies BryceS as a Bell World employee...
»[ Mobile] Bell will be 'throttling' free Blackberry GPS Apps |
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andyb
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1 edit | reply to TKJunkMail
I assume he means this thread
»www.howardforums.com/showthread.···=1435850 |
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Ken1
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Since the GPS signal is in the public domain how can they stop you from getting it leaglly? They don't have tp sell device that receive the signal and I can see charging a little extra for the added receiver but diabling a signal that does not belong to them and then calling it a service and charging for it? |
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EPS
join:2008-02-13
Hingham, MA
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Re: Is this legal?
Why would it be illegal? Bell sells you the BlackBerry. As long as their contract with Research in Motion allows them to do so, I can't see why altering the BlackBerry's software would be illegal, unless Canada has some strange laws relating to cell-phones that I don't know about. |
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TKJunkMail
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Re: Good question asked at blog post that started this story
And why should we believe Sammy740 on that forum. There is still no text of the supposed internal memo.
And another poster here in the BBR thread denies this is true:
»Re: [ Mobile] Bell will be 'throttling' free Blackberry GPS Apps
I've been doing some digging and checked with some colleagues within Mobility and no one seems to know anything about this. |
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EveryName
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Re: Is this legal?
Of course its legal. Have you ever had a cell phone that wouldn't allow you to add your own MP3s as ringtones, because the operator wanted you to buy ringtones from their store? That's not illegal.
Have you ever had a phone that had bluetooth file transfers disabled so you couldn't share content. That's not illegal.
Basically, they can do whatever you want with the phones. Its just not very good customer service. |
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TigerLord
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Montreal | I would say no all these questions, I never had that. |
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Deadpool
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Re: How
said by Ken1 :
Since the GPS signal is in the public domain how can they stop you from getting it leaglly? They don't have tp sell device that receive the signal and I can see charging a little extra for the added receiver but diabling a signal that does not belong to them and then calling it a service and charging for it?
From what's been posted so far, it appears as though they'll delay the speed of the GPS signal acquisition, not stop it from working.
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cdru
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Re: Good question asked at blog post that started this story
said by TKJunkMail :And why should we believe Sammy740 on that forum. There is still no text of the supposed internal memo. And why should you not? Just because there isn't text doesn't mean it isn't true either. People should make up their own minds based on the facts (or rumors) at hand. If it is going to happen, shame on Bell Canada. If some Bell Ca exec was dreaming up ways to screw the customer, now is the prefect time to raise a fuss. If it was never going to happen, then the only thing bad happening is that the support lines are being tied up.
He doesn't deny it. He just says that no one he knows has heard of it. He also said that a previous change (DPI...whatever that is) that the scripts weren't released until the change was. Since the rumor here says in the coming weeks, scripts might not be released until the GPS changes are made too. |
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Rastan
join:2007-04-25
Canada | reply to Deadpool
Re: How
Sort of like how Bell delays Internet traffic by throttling it down to a crawl. I have to hand it to Bell, they've perfected the art of providing a terrible service. |
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travisc
join:2001-11-09
Port Perry, ON
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Re: Good question asked at blog post that started this story
TK, I know your gimmick is pro-corporation and to distrust everything that is said that is negative about any large company in North America, but are you serious? If we've learned one thing about Bell the last year or two it's that they are out to make money, consumers be damned.
I know you do what you do and won't be swayed, but it's really tiresome. |
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dvd536
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Phoenix, AZ | no different
than verizon disabling bluetooth soon as a new handset that has this capability connects to its network.
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EPS
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Hingham, MA | Well, yes, but Verizon Wireless doesn't do business in Canada, which is I guess why it's newsworthy that a Canadian carrier is doing this. |
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