Hazy Arc
join:2006-04-10
Greenwood, SC | Interesting...
It's interesting that we are shooting for 10Mbps by 2010...when the article directly above this one states that Japan is already deploying symmetrical 1Gbps connections for $50 a month.
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NewMariner
join:2005-06-24
| Who's Picking up the Tab?
And who do they suggest to pick up the tab on this? As a tax payer, I sure would not vote for this. I dont care what how fast anyone can download their pr0n. We have to many pressing issues to fix...such as right now our economy, then healthcare, then welfare, and the many other programs we already have that are broken.
Lets fix those first before getting another program together that will falter and be broken. |
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Hazy Arc
join:2006-04-10
Greenwood, SC | We should work on a 100% broadband footprint before we worry about increasing connection speeds for those who already have broadband. |
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Cabal
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join:2007-01-21
Boston, MA | reply to Hazy Arc
Re: Interesting...
Sure, for everyone that can afford a single-family dwelling in Tokyo. |
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nasadude
join:2001-10-05
Rockville, MD | a day late and a dollar short
Japan in 2008: 1Gbps symmetrical
U.S. in 2015: 100Mbps, maybe symmetrical, probably not |
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TKJunkMail
Enjoy the sun
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join:2002-03-03
Avalon, NJ
 ·Sprint Mobile Broa..
 ·Comcast
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Re: Who's Picking up the Tab?
said by NewMariner  :And who do they suggest to pick up the tab on this? As a tax payer, I sure would not vote for this. I dont care what how fast anyone can download their pr0n. We have to many pressing issues to fix...such as right now our economy, then healthcare, then welfare, and the many other programs we already have that are broken. Lets fix those first before getting another program together that will falter and be broken. Good point.
And this statement shows a good amount of naiveté:
Perhaps groups calling out for a 100Mbps nation would be better served cleaning up the pay-to-play political system first.
That task could take decades to accomplish. Unless of course the economy totally collapses this weekend. 
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maartena
Stacked.
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join:2002-05-10
Orange, CA
·RoadRunner Cable
| It could be done.....
....were it not for the fact that we have a 600 billion war tab, a possible 700 billion bail-out tab if it gets approved, and almost 10 trillion dollars of national debt.
With all the bills this country still has to pay, adding one that finances a few billion or so to bring 10 Mbps to Nothing, AZ, Pop 19, is not very high on the priority list.
As a matter of fact, i'll gladly give up half of my internet speed if it means they actually get to fix things like social security and healthcare.
Right now it doesn't look like either presidential candidate can do what they are promising looking at the state of the economy, and we want to ask congress for a broadband policy?
Good luck with that.
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Rueal
@direcpc.com
| Broadband for eveyone would be nice!
Hi all! I live out of the "limits" of broadband and cable, and I would be happy with just a 1mbs connection. My neighbors have HughesNet and it Blowz! "They let me feed off it with WiFi" as I have no dial-up connection, and even when it's not FAP'ed it goes EXTREMELY SLOW due to all the other poor saps who get online during the day. So this US scale broadband coverage would be a very good thing IMHO. Also, WiMax needs to come out!!! |
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pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
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join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD |  Stupid Idea
Didn't we just see the result of the Federal Government's "Mortgage For Everyone" program?
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Matt
Take me down to the paradise city
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join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC
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Re: Who's Picking up the Tab?
said by NewMariner :And who do they suggest to pick up the tab on this? As a tax payer, I sure would not vote for this. And as a taxpayer, I certainly would. Isn't democracy grand?
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pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
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join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD
·Comcast
| said by Matt :And as a taxpayer, I certainly would. Isn't democracy grand? Aside from the fact that we have never lived in a democracy, I must ask, why burden the taxpayers who don't want to pay for this with the cost, especially when the government isn't legally allowed to be tasked with this project (of course that invalidates about 60% of all federal expenditures)?
There's nothing stopping all of the people who want to make this happen from pooling their own money into a private venture that can make this happen.
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Matt
Take me down to the paradise city
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join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC
·North State Commun..
| said by pnh102 :said by Matt :And as a taxpayer, I certainly would. Isn't democracy grand? Aside from the fact that we have never lived in a democracy, I must ask, why burden the taxpayers who don't want to pay for this with the cost, especially when the government isn't legally allowed to be tasked with this project (of course that invalidates about 60% of all federal expenditures)? There's nothing stopping all of the people who want to make this happen from pooling their own money into a private venture that can make this happen. Yes, we live in a Republic, but idealistically we are a democracy: »usinfo.state.gov/products/pubs/w···tdm2.htm
Anyway, I am burdened with thousands of things I want nothing to do with now. And why are they legally not allowed to get involved? Are you equating their involvement with building the infrastructure? If so, that is remarkably shortsighted. There is a myriad of ways the government can get involved to make this happen.
After all, it took government involvement to make the interstate system and national power grid happen and those have been wildly successful and very reliable.
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pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
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join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD
·Comcast
| What can I say, if the State Department claims that we are a democracy when the Constitution states that we are a republic, the the State Department is wrong.
said by Matt :Anyway, I am burdened with thousands of things I want nothing to do with now. Well, nothing of this scope can be done in one's spare time. Planning and building something takes dedication and effort. What would have happened if someone like Alexander Graham Bell, Henry Ford or Thomas Edison waited around for the government to do the things they succeeded in doing?
said by Matt : And why are they legally not allowed to get involved? ... After all, it took government involvement to make the interstate system and national power grid happen and those have been wildly successful and very reliable. The interstate highway system was built under the auspices of national defense. The Constitution grants the government wide latitude to do things under the auspices of national defense.
Building a taxpayer financed content delivery service isn't one of those things.
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PDXPLT
join:2003-12-04
Banks, OR
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Re: Interesting...
said by Cabal :Sure, for everyone that can afford a single-family dwelling in Tokyo. Plus those living in apartments up to three stories high. Which is alot. Tokyo isn't a city exclusively dominated by high-rise apartments, like some other Asian cities. |
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nasadude
join:2001-10-05
Rockville, MD
·Comcast
| reply to maartena
Re: It could be done.....
it could be done if the govt would regulate the industry and enable competition.
the mantra of "facilities based competition" hasn't worked for CLECs because the incumbents fight tooth and nail and lawyer against any entity that promises competition. Look how hard they fight muni fiber deployments.
It won't take a huge influx of government money to get cheaper, faster broadband, it will take a competitive market.
A well regulated, competitive market won't happen until our congress and the FCC are no longer owned by the industries they regulate. |
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Sammer
join:2005-12-22
Canonsburg, PA
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Re: Who's Picking up the Tab?
said by pnh102 :There's nothing stopping all of the people who want to make this happen from pooling their own money into a private venture that can make this happen. Try it and unless you're an incumbent see how fast you get sued! |
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SillyRabbit
@tds.net
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said by pnh102 :said by Matt : Aside from the fact that we have never lived in a democracy, I must ask, why burden the taxpayers who don't want to pay for this with the cost, especially when the government isn't legally allowed to be tasked with this project (of course that invalidates about 60% of all federal expenditures)? By your logic, why burden the taxpayers who don't want to pay taxes for the children of other people's education? I know I don't want to be burdened with that crap. |
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SillyRabbit
@tds.net
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said by pnh102 :said by Matt :After all, it took government involvement to make the interstate system and national power grid happen and those have been wildly successful and very reliable. The interstate highway system was built under the auspices of national defense. The Constitution grants the government wide latitude to do things under the auspices of national defense. Building a taxpayer financed content delivery service isn't one of those things. Sure it is.... Wink, wink... Under the auspices of national defense. Dooh! |
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Duramax08
Oh rly?
join:2008-08-03
San Antonio, TX
·Clearwire Wireless
·Juno Express
| About Freakin Time.
I asked my congressmen if they would do some kind of incentives for companies that lay down fiber. This is good though. Well a start at least.
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SillyRabbit
@tds.net
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Re: Stupid Idea
said by pnh102 :Didn't we just see the result of the Federal Government's "Mortgage For Everyone" program? Dooh, apples and oranges. Fallacy much? |
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