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Avalon, NJ |  Thank Bush for killing the "Govt suing infringers" part
Bush White House threatened a veto if that part of the act wasn't removed from the bill.
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| WoW some common sense from the Bush Whitehouse ?..  
"Civil copyright enforcement has always been the responsibility and prerogative of private copyright holders, and U.S. law already provides them with effective legal tools to protect their rights," the Justice Department and Commerce Department wrote.
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2 edits | Best gov't corporations can buy
Energy? Nah.
Heathcare? Nah.
Crime? Nah.
Exploding budgets? Nah.
High taxation? Nah.
Corporate corruption? Nah.
Education? Nah.
Illegal immigration? Nah.
Licking the ass of corporate interests in exchange for bribes contributions? Top priority.
Title 17 already has enforceable provisions. We don't need to grow gov't even more creating a gov't police force for corporate interests. Copyright czar. Piracy unit. It's laughable how corrupt gov't is. |
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Dogfather
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Laguna Hills, CA | reply to TKJunkMail
Re: Thank Bush for killing the "Govt suing infringers" part
The whole bill should have been vetoed. We don't need bigger gov't to service as private police for racketeers like the RIAA. |
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| said by Dogfather  :The whole bill should have been vetoed. We don't need bigger gov't to service as private police for racketeers like the RIAA. The gov't isn't protecting RIAA. It is protecting "intellectual property" rights of many industries. And "intellectual property" makes up a larger and larger part of the US GDP and an even larger part of our exports. It is helping protect our economy from pirates.
said by DrModem :Train other countries?! WTFriggingheck? Yes, train other countries. Because it helps to get foreign countries to enforce laws protecting "intellectual property" rights of US companies and helps protect a large part of US exports.
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1 edit | Here's where you are wrong TK.. Are you ever Right (nope)?. Tax Payer money shouldn't be used to protect the interests of PRIVATE CORPORATIONS. It' is THEIR JOB, NOT tax payers to do that... So yes, this is Big Government and Big Brother again. This time from the Democrats. Usually, it's been from the far right, but the left is starting their own stupidity. I'm amazed Bush was the one with COMMON SENSE here. This must be an alternate reality when I hear that said. |
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Re: Best gov't corporations can buy
And I'm so glad they are spending time on this kind of crap, because the 12 year old down the street getting free music is to blame for the current economy 
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It is expected that the House of Representatives will discuss the new legislation over the weekend. Of this I am not surprised. The country is falling apart and they are looking to stick us all with a $700 billion tab to help keep Wall Street paved in gold. So of course this "critical" piece of legislation will be added to the discussion.
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Re: Thank Bush for killing the "Govt suing infringers" part
There already is IP law and it's already enforced. We don't need bigger government and more bureaucrats to serve as private police because corporations bought off some politicians.
If the gov't actually wanted to deal with IP crimes they could do so tomorrow. We run an ever increasing trade deficit with countries like China. Raise tariffs based on their human rights and IP violations and you will see China get IP crime under control tomorrow. This is no different than claiming that the Patriot Act is to keep us safe while the gov't keeps the borders wide open because corporations love the slave labor. It's typical gov't double-speak and corruption...this time just more bullshit ass kissing of corporations by their lapdogs in Congress and as usual you sign on to it. |
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But when the RIAA actually has to go to court and do their own dirty work they lose. So they have to buy off Congress to do it for them. |
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said by jc100 : Tax Payer money shouldn't be used to protect the interests of PRIVATE CORPORATIONS. It' is THEIR JOB, NOT tax payers to do that. The US government has been protecting the US economy, especially where foreign trade is concerned, since the US was founded. Read a little history before making invalid claims.
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1 edit | Oh yeah, our EXPLODING trade deficit and decimation of our manufacturing sectors through outsourcing is proof the Federal gov't is protecting the US economy. Yep, kissing the ass of corporate interests has our economy in excellent shape. Everything is AWESOME.
What horsecrap. |
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1 edit | said by Dogfather :Oh yeah, our EXPLODING trade deficit and decimation of our manufacturing sectors through outsourcing is proof the Federal gov't is protecting the US economy. What horsecrap. You are commenting on the governments ability to do a GOOD job. NOT on their responsibility to do the job at all. The job needs doing. It just needs to be done better. Maybe the new law will help them do that.
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Re: Thank Senator Wyden for killing the "Govt suing infring...
Nice try, but that had nothing to do with the provision being dropped - the Democratic controlled Senate Judiciary committee couldn't care less about what the Bush Administration wanted. Senator Ron Wyden (D-OR), Author of the Internet Tax ban, Section 230 of the CDA, Net Neutrality and Net radio champion, held up the bill until that section was removed. There are actually good sections of the bill (basically focused on preventing dangerous counterfeits of physical goods) but the civil enforcement provision would have been a disaster for the Internet.
It's nice how TK wants to claim credit for the Republicans, but unless they actually went and hit someone with that letter they sent, the Bush administration had about as much impact on this issue as an arthritic chicken. |
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| said by JSM88 :Nice try, but that had nothing to do with the provision being dropped - the Democratic controlled Senate Judiciary committee couldn't care less about what the Bush Administration wanted. Senator Ron Wyden (D-OR), Author of the Internet Tax ban, Section 230 of the CDA, Net Neutrality and Net radio champion, held up the bill until that section was removed. There are actually good sections of the bill (basically focused on preventing dangerous counterfeits of physical goods) but the civil enforcement provision would have been a disaster for the Internet. It's nice how TK wants to claim credit for the Republicans, but unless they actually went and hit someone with that letter they sent, the Bush administration had about as much impact on this issue as an arthritic chicken. That is your opinion. The press disagrees with you.
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Falls Church, VA | nope, just the facts. Unlike your team, I don't think the truth is relative. |
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Re: Train other countries?!
Yup, that's the US trying to control the rest of the world. Unless everyone does things THE US WAY, they aren't happy.
Nice government you have there, nosing around in everyone else's business when they could (and should) concentrate on fixing much bigger problems that affect their country. National debt anyone?  |
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Re: Thank Bush for killing the "Govt suing infringers" part
Bush finally did something smart.
and this is a total total waste of my tax dollars.
War on drugs-Failure
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More pro-corproate laws and bigger gov't aren't a solution. |
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