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Comments on news posted 2008-09-30 08:14:36: A new survey conducted by International Data Corporation on behalf of Zeugma Systems not too surprisingly finds that consumers aren't big fans of monthly data caps. ..

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grydlok

join:2004-01-06
Richmond, VA

That's not suprising

Nobody wants to pay more, or even the idea that they might pay more.

El Gaupo
Premium
join:2006-07-15
Buckhorn, NM

Wages

They should pay more than McDonalds


blackzero
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join:2007-08-16
Trois-Rivieres, QC

Surprising

I guess that those 787 polled consumers are often downloading, enough to exceed their montly limit.

1 GB = 1'024MB = 1'048'576KB

those providers who are offering 5gb for download, they're offering nothing.

i have nothing against massive downloaders,but the fact that most of people don't know how to interprete the limits provided by their isps is just surprising.


Linklist
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join:2002-03-03
Longport, NJ
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reply to grydlok

Re: That's not suprising

A new survey conducted by International Data Corporation on behalf of Zeugma Systems
I wonder how much Zeugma paid to have that study done? If it was more than $5, they were taken to the cleaners.

But at least this explains why they are interested in caps and the monitoring of customer broadband usage:
»www.zeugmasystems.com/default.aspx
Zeugma Systems is a supplier of carrier-grade, open telecommunications systems that allow broadband service providers to identify, monitor, manage, and customize traffic flows on a per-service, per-subscriber level.

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TSI Gabe
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Chatham, ON
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reply to blackzero

Re: Surprising

said by blackzero:

1 GB = 1'024MB = 1'048'576KB

Actually you have it wrong here, no offense intended. It's a common misconception that bandwidth should be multiplied by 1024. Only memory should be calculated that way, not bandwidth.

1GB = 1000MB = 1,000,000KB
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majortom1029

join:2006-10-19
Lindenhurst, NY
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hmm

BEfore cablevision took away there speed caping i thought it was a better way of handling things. INstead of charging people and having a bandwidth limit why not just slow down the peoples connections.

At east they will still have a conenction and not have to pay more.


ropeguru
Premium
join:2001-01-25
Mechanicsville, VA

reply to blackzero

Re: Surprising

And to confuse matters more, in networking, typically

1 GB = 1'000MB = 1,000,000KB

That little difference could put you over the edge...


Nightfall
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join:2001-08-03
Grand Rapids, MI
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So....let me get this straight.

787 people polled.
81% said they don't like the idea of their speeds (or amount of data) capped and CHARGED OVERAGES? Gee, thats not a surprise. Ask anyone in a mall if they like to be charged for going over their minutes on their phone or being capped on their minutes and they will say they hate it. Same with their ISP. Want to take money out of my pocket? I am against it.

51% said they would try to change ISPs if their provider implemented caps. I find this figure surprising being as that 83% don't know what a gigabyte is. How do these people know if they are going over? Comcast gives everyone 250gb limit. Would someone who doesn't know what a gigabyte is and uses 10gb a month be offended because of the cap and try to move ISPs?

The only thing that this survey reinforces in my mind are the power users and techies that know about caps are against it. The common user has no idea how much they are using data wise, and is just interested in the bottom line price and they want no limit. Even if that limit is so much that they will never hit it. I have a friend who has Comcast and was furious about the 250gb cap. However, he only browses at home and gets email, and has no idea what a gigabyte is. I put a bandwidth meter on his PC for a week and he used a whopping 6gb. He might use 40gb in a month if he is lucky. After seeing this, he stopped complaining.
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blackzero
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Trois-Rivieres, QC

reply to blackzero

Re: Surprising

i did a little mistake


pnh102
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join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD

Caps Led Me To Drop Mobile Internet

Up until recently I had one of the old, original Cingular Media Net plans that advertised "unlimited" bandwidth. I had this plan since I purchased a GPRS phone back in 2003. It cost me $15 a month. My guess is that the data rate on that phone was so slow that they did not care. Since I never renewed my contract as I changed phones (I bought a 3G phone earlier this year) I never changed the plan.

This month, I notice that the plan was capped at 5MB a month. I don't think I ever took less time to cancel something before.
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knightmb
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join:2003-12-01
Franklin, TN

reply to TSI Gabe

Re: Surprising

said by TSI Gabe:

said by blackzero:

1 GB = 1'024MB = 1'048'576KB

Actually you have it wrong here, no offense intended. It's a common misconception that bandwidth should be multiplied by 1024. Only memory should be calculated that way, not bandwidth.

1GB = 1000MB = 1,000,000KB
Depends on if you are talking about megabytes or megabits.

If he's referring to Gigabytes, then he's right because it means what it means no matter what the median of transfer. If he's referring to gigabits, then 1 gigabyte is 8 gigabits.

1GB = 8 gb
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knightmb
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Franklin, TN

reply to Linklist

Re: That's not suprising

said by Linklist:

A new survey conducted by International Data Corporation on behalf of Zeugma Systems
I wonder how much Zeugma paid to have that study done? If it was more than $5, they were taken to the cleaners.

But at least this explains why they are interested in caps and the monitoring of customer broadband usage:
»www.zeugmasystems.com/default.aspx
Zeugma Systems is a supplier of carrier-grade, open telecommunications systems that allow broadband service providers to identify, monitor, manage, and customize traffic flows on a per-service, per-subscriber level.
Paid to have the study done or paid those that were involved in the study?
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davidl

join:2008-07-11
Vaudreuil-Dorion, QC

reply to majortom1029

Re: hmm

In Japan, they're working on 1 Gbps Upload and Download to people's homes...here we squabble over Mbps/Kbps and ridiculous caps...it's shameful and embarrassing.

The Telcos/Cablecos should be collectively fined out of existence and all their assets seized for deliberately sabotaging our abilities to compete.

majortom1029

join:2006-10-19
Lindenhurst, NY
kudos:1

Yes and they dont have a huge country to get wires across. ITs easier to wire a 300 appartmet complex then to wire 300 individual houses.


davidl

join:2008-07-11
Vaudreuil-Dorion, QC

reply to Nightfall

Re: So....let me get this straight.

It's not about what he uses right now with some ancient legacy protocols like email and web, it's about denying him access to try some future services like TV on the web, video phone/Voice Over IP, cloud computing and things like that.

The Telcos and Cablecos would rather keep us firmly planted in the 20th century like donkeys.


Quake110
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join:2003-12-20
Ottawa, ON

reply to TSI Gabe

Re: Surprising

Wow, I didn't know that. More straightforward than I thought.


battleop

join:2005-09-28
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reply to davidl

Re: hmm

A little math for you. What's cheaper to wire? An area the size of the United States or an area the size of Montana.

davidl

join:2008-07-11
Vaudreuil-Dorion, QC

Pffff...they also have 1/3 the population of North America and less than 1/3 of the GDP.

I'd pay $2,000/$3,000 up front for gigabit access to an internet connected network that's not interfered with by the telcos/cablecos and their ulterior motives of trying to charge me by the byte like minutes on a cell phone.


tmc8080

join:2004-04-24
Brooklyn, NY
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these figures still lead to apathy...

many consumers don't have a reasonable choice of switching... the broadband footprints outside of major metro areas are not competitive, offer little, if any choice and are at a service disadvantage... speeds as low as 3mbit cablemodem service... on an oversold node, that could equal dialup service, or non-usable service.

the infrastructure needs to improve drastically in some areas... and forced, perhaps subsidized competition in others. this all comes before the monoply powers that be consider playing with data caps.


battleop

join:2005-09-28
00000

reply to davidl

Re: hmm

They also have an urban population density of 12,500 people per square mile where we have 2,900 people per square mile.

In our current economy you try and sell your neighbors on spending $2-3k plus monthly recurring for a connection that they will not even use 10% of.

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