sharksfan3
Premium
join:2004-02-16
Poughkeepsie, NY | It's too late for Nextel
Their peak occured the day before the buyout was completed. It's been down hill since. |
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pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
Premium
join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD | Hopefully This Brings Another Competitor Back
It would be nice to see Nextel exist as a competitor to Verizon, AT&T, Sprint, T-Mobile and Alltel once again. More competition will help to keep prices in check.
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sprint employee
@spcsdns.net | nextel off load
please just take it........... |
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DaveNJ
No Fear
join:1999-09-01
New Jersey | reply to pnh102
Re: Hopefully This Brings Another Competitor Back
They need to convert Nextel into the first LTE provider with very fast data, then it will become a data provider, and good roaming partner. That will save it. |
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fixyourmess
@direcpc.com
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Re: nextel off load
said by sprint employee :
please just take it...........
yea now that sprint ruined nextel they want to get rid of it.i loved nextel until sprint screwed it up now it doesn't even work in my area,and that started 2 weeks after the take over,so now they are going to sell it at a huge loss that makes sense to me sprint fix your screw up |
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XOHMGUY
join:2008-10-02
Cockeysville, MD
| Coming from an X-Nextel Partner Emp
I wish it would have never happened.. I had a great job, great service and etc... Thanks to a wasted merger we had what almost 10000 layoffs and 200+ store closings... I miss the old days..  ... Oh wait!! I got 4G now... Never mind.. |
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rec9140
Provoice just DO it
join:2003-07-29
Mulberry, FL
| reply to pnh102
Re: Hopefully This Brings Another Competitor Back
said by pnh102  :
It would be nice to see Nextel exist as a competitor to Verizon, AT&T, Sprint, T-Mobile and Alltel once again. More competition will help to keep prices in check.
Nexhell is NOT a cell phone company and is NOT a competitor in the truest sense to VZW etc..
The PRIMARY users of the iDEN systems are users who need PTT aka DirectConnect aka walkie-talkie.
Its just a secondary function that iDEN systems can make phone calls in the terms of iDEN systems this is an interconnect.
iDEN is a RADIO system that has more in common with trunked radio systems most commonly used with public safety than a phone system.
The data features of iDEN could be richer, but for probably 90% of the users PTT and the slow data are fine.
Other than the Boost side of the things the primary users are business or public safety, and their #1 use is PTT.
SouthernLinc and nexhell are in a separate marketplace and attempting for either of them to compete against VZW et al as a cell phone provider when its not their forte doesn't help them, it only helps VZW.....
The purchase by sprint made no sense to start, but some times you have to learn the hard way.
Plus the $BILLION's in re-banding didn't help things either, but thats a whole different topic.
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rec9140
Provoice just DO it
join:2003-07-29
Mulberry, FL
| reply to DaveNJ
said by DaveNJ :
They need to convert Nextel into the first LTE provider with very fast data, then it will become a data provider, and good roaming partner. That will save it.
iDEN and LTE have no correlation to each other.
SouthernLinc, NII, and nexhell are NOT phone systems they are RADIO systems similar to trunked public safety as in Motorola SmartZone, M/A-Com EDACS, LTR etc.. They have more in common with Motorola's than the others since iDEN is a Motoroal protocol but the concepts apply.
This is the reason spring and nexhell made no sense to start.
Sprint CDMA
Nexhell iDEN
Totally INCOMPATIBLE.
Plus along with the bandwidth needs of 1.4MHz to 20MHz for LTE after rebanding nexhell would only have 7MHz total between 862 and 869, and in the SE has to share that 7MHz with SouthernLinc. So dedicating the minimum 1.4MHz to LTE and then spreading the rest out for iDEN, plus site issues.... Don't think thats going to help.
nexhell users are there mainly for PTT and thats it. Fast data is a minimal concern for most on iDEN.
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weaver0
join:2004-05-05
Macungie, PA | so now what happens?
The wife has a hybrid Nextel/Sprint phone.. what becomes of her service? iDEN no worky? |
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en102
Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA
 ·RoadRunner Cable
 ·DSL EXTREME
| reply to rec9140
Re: Hopefully This Brings Another Competitor Back
said by rec9140 :Sprint CDMA Nexhell iDEN Totally INCOMPATIBLE. Yup - bridging technology at best.
iDEN has more in common with GSM than it does with CDMA, and its still not compatible. SIM cards + MAP back end allows for iDEN to GSM roaming with ease, however, there have been very few GSM iDEN (i2000?) devices made, and there were for overseas roaming.
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DaveNJ
No Fear
join:1999-09-01
New Jersey | But Nextel cant stay on 2G technology forever. Its needs to move on. All wireless providers have converted and delt with incompatibilities. ATT and Verizon have both ran dual networks. |
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ace41690
join:2003-01-24
Northfield, CT | well....
Sprint did still get thousands of synergy sites out of it, costing them significantly less than it would have otherwise. It also probably caused them to improve coverage more than they would have otherwise. |
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ninjatutle
Premium
join:2006-01-02
San Ramon, CA | reply to sprint employee
Re: nextel off load
I'm close to offloading Sprint myself. Just 2 weeks left on my Mobile Broadband contract  |
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RichNice
join:2003-01-09
Columbia, MD | So after they separate..what then?
What will Sprint do then? Merge back with Embarq and rename the company Sprint all over again? |
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partysource
join:2000-11-25
Phoenix, AZ
1 edit | Nextel Use To Be The Bomb
I remember back in the day Nextel had perfect reception no problems connecting. Ever since Sprint bought them they made it crap! Say what you want, but I still think Sprint is garbage. |
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BillRoland
Premium
join:2001-01-21
Ocala, FL
clubs:
·Cox HSI
| Merger failure had nothing to do with disperate technology
The merger between Sprint and NEXTEL didn't fail because Sprint uses CDMA and NEXTEL uses iDEN, indeed others have run dual networks and in fact Telus in Canada chooses to run both a CDMA and iDEN network, so obviously it can be done. The failure of the merger was that our new overlords at Sprint had no idea how to deal with their new customers they acquired. That's understandable, Sprint being cell network of last resort for low/no credit subs that nobody else would take, and NEXTEL being the choice primarily of business customers with good credit and strong loyalties. Sprint incorrectly thought they could drive everybody off the iDEN network and onto the Sprint side, which failed miserably. It was already too late when they realized it.
So more power to NII Holdings (NEXTEL International). Maybe things will finally improve for us, seeing as how these people know how to manage an iDEN system. I can only hope Tim Donahue gets involved as well, the man turned NEXTEL into verb.
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S_engineer
join:2007-05-16
Chicago, IL
·Comcast
| reply to DaveNJ
Re: Hopefully This Brings Another Competitor Back
Netxtel has a niche. If they focus on that, as well as getting some of their previous industrial customers back, they might just find a foundation from which they can build. Sprint...what a mess!
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fiberguy
My views are my own.
Premium
join:2005-05-20
| reply to rec9140
I wouldn't say that Nextel users are not concerned with data. I can tell you that many businesses are dependent on the PTT, however, major corporations, like Comcast even, moved to Sprint for the HSD over PTT which, in this case, is a major step back.
I for one, too, just once case here speaking for myself, dropped Nextel over Sprint for the data as well. I definitely miss the PTT side of the system, but, since everyone else I know (about 25 users) dropped Nextel for other brands like Sprint and AT&T for the needs of HSD & for better PDA access.
Many businesses are moving to network capable applications requiring a good internet connection. When it comes down to it, the PTT will lose out in the long run. What's a shame is they didn't do more to bridge the iDEN and CDMA phones like they started, and brought out more PDA iDen capable phones. (THAT was a MAJOR mistake on their part as well)
But, like so many others have said, Spring royally fu*ked up Nextel when they purchased it; and this deal NEVER should have went through.
Honestly, if Nextel would "sprint-off" into their own land again, AND if they'd do something by keeping the PTT and merging the voice and data with a CDMA or other technology, and package it with good customer service  .. they'd have a winner. I'd *probably* dump Sprint in a heart beat. (Though I do like the $99 simply everything plan, too)
.. one can dream. |
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mindfrost82
join:2003-04-19
Cortland, IL
| reply to fixyourmess
Re: nextel off load
I just love it when people say Sprint ruined Nextel. Nextel was at or near capacity when the merger happened. Once that happens, there's nowhere for the carrier to go except backwards. They were forced to change some of their technology due to the FCC and that would have been enough to put them under.
Sure the merger was horrible and didn't go smoothly at all, but Sprint didn't ruin Nextel, Nextel ruined Nextel before the merger even happened. Nextel saw it coming and they wanted to get out, that's why the started talking about mergers. |
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en102
Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA | reply to fiberguy
Re: Hopefully This Brings Another Competitor Back
My Nexthell BB 7100i does a lot of data... mostly email, and some WAP/mini Opera.
It is slow, but fairly reliable.
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