TKJunkMail
Enjoy the sun
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join:2002-03-03
Avalon, NJ |  Wall st analysts predict - isn't that an oxymoron
Given Wall St analysts success of late, I wouldn't put a whole lot of trust in their prediction. After the 3rd qtr #'s are in on OCT 22, a better guess would be more likely. |
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blips
join:2001-04-17
Addison, IL
1 edit | Speed it up?
Maybe it should speed them up. As people cut cost they might decide that their cell phones are all they need and start cutting their land lines to cut down their month expenses. They need U-verse to keep these customers for defecting. |
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contrary
@wayport.net
| Slow economy should speed UVerse customer growth
The people I know who are switching to UVerse are switching away from Comcast and Time Warner cableTV/Internet, and they are saving money while getting more TV channels. Plus their Internet connections are much more reliable and consistent. So, in an economy in which people want more bang for their buck, AT&T should do well. |
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C0deZer0
Oc'D To Rhythm And Police
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join:2001-10-03
Davenport, FL
 ·Verizon FIOS
| New Generation would rather cut TV than i-net
Simply, with newer generation customers (GenX/Y/Next), U-Verse for internet would be a more valuable incentive for these people than classical TV and landline services.
Right now, if it were up to me, I would cut the landline and TV and just keep internet and cell phone service as my necessity utilities. I hardly watch much TV at all anymore, and the landline effectively collects dust with few minor exceptions. If not for all the freebies that Verizon here tossed in to get us to keep it, I definitely think the roomies and I would have come to a consensus of getting rid of it altogether and sticking with our mobile phones.
I can't imagine it'd be that much different for "new generation" customers who live in areas primarily serviced by AT&T.
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morgan1112
join:2003-04-07
Round Rock, TX
| What?
The only reason why AT&T would miss this target is because of internal problems associated with installing the services. Based on my experience, installation takes forever and its not because of the installers. Most of their time was spent on the phone with someone in the back office. In most cases U-verse prices beat competitors. Who does not want to get paid $200 to switch providers? Seems to me that folks would be more interested in lowering their bills in a down economy. |
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JSRoman
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join:2005-03-10
Callahan, FL | AT&T won't hit their numbers.
Lots of pain coming in next couple of weeks.
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iampedro
join:2005-02-12
Houston, TX |  I sure hope not b/c I am looking iampedro to having this for my house... |
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Camelot One
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join:2001-11-21
Sarasota, FL
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Re: Wall st analysts predict - isn't that an oxymoron
At this point I have more faith in the "flip the coin" prediction method than I do in Wall Street "experts".
But given the recent trend, doom and gloom predictions are probably the safe bet.
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maartena
Super Grover
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join:2002-05-10
Orange, CA
 ·RoadRunner Cable
| It's the economy, stupid!
I wouldn't be surprised if ALL companies who had plans laid out for this year would have to put some of them on hold. Although the technology sector isn't hit as hard as the financial one, people aren't spending the same kind of money anymore on TV and Internet connections, and people who are moving out of their foreclosure into a rental may be happy with just broadcast TV and a cheap $19.95 DSL for the time being.
No matter how you look at this crisis, it WILL hit everyone in some way or another, and every major corporation will see decreased profits, and what seemed like a sound investment 6 months ago, may not be so profitable currently, especially if U-Verse was scheduled to roll out in an area with many medium to medium-low incomes, who would have been able to afford it 2 years ago, but may not be so willing to spend that kind of money now.
As for missing the target, you can provision an area for U-verse, but that does not mean you are going to sell any subscriptions. And my guess is that even if their rollout plan sticks, they may not sell as much subscriptions as previously predicted.
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decifal
join:2007-03-10
Bon Aqua, TN | Yeah.. I'm pretty much going to be on ISDN until the economy "really" recovers, and even then wimax will be more likely to be placed here due to unknown reasons..... |
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DrModem
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join:2006-10-19
USA
 ·EarthLink
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 ·PeoplePC
| said by decifal  :Yeah.. I'm pretty much going to be on ISDN until the economy "really" recovers, and even then wimax will be more likely to be placed here due to unknown reasons..... I don't think you want ISDN. With Verizon I had to pay $50/month for the line and 2 cents per minute connected.
But at least it was better than the only other option, dialup. |
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en102
Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA | reply to TKJunkMail
Re: Wall st analysts predict - isn't that an oxymoron
If anything can be 'predicted', it would be slower rate of adoption of Uverse.
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decifal
join:2007-03-10
Bon Aqua, TN | reply to DrModem
Re: It's the economy, stupid!
I have it through ATT, its about $44 a month plus my isp for 128k isdn is 18.95... its all I can get thats reliable for gaming.. Evdo just didn't cut it for my wow account... So i'm on isdn till I die I guess.. |
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djrobx
join:2000-05-31
Valencia, CA
 ·PHONE POWER
·AT&T U-Verse
·AT&T CallVantage
·Time Warner VOIP
·RoadRunner Cable
1 edit | reply to blips
Re: Speed it up?
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Maybe it should speed them up. As people cut cost they might decide that their cell phones are all they need and start cutting their land lines to cut down their month expenses.
That's what I was thinking. U-verse offers the best sign-up promo I've ever seen. They'll give you a $200 check within 60 days, plus a free month of TV just to give it a try without commitment. So they're essentially paying you for the first couple months.
When there's an enconomic downturn, people can't afford to go out and do things. So they turn to less expensive in-home entertainment options. When you look at the more "loaded" TV packages, U-verse offers a much better value than a lot of cable companies.
Plus, people feeling a pinch are more likely to forgive U-verse's technical limitations in favor of a good value.
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en102
Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA
·RoadRunner Cable
·DSL EXTREME
| I'd like to see AT&T's adoption rate with POTS numbers in SoCal. I wonder how many have kept the landline, and how many have gone elsewhere (VoIP Vonage, T-Mobile @home, and Call Vantage which is no longer taking orders)
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djrobx
join:2000-05-31
Valencia, CA
·PHONE POWER
·AT&T U-Verse
·AT&T CallVantage
·Time Warner VOIP
·RoadRunner Cable
1 edit | reply to C0deZer0
Re: New Generation would rather cut TV than i-net
Interestingly, AT&T doesn't push voice services very hard with U-verse. They still haven't even bothered to start offering U-voice here in Los Angeles. During my entire setup process, AT&T never once tried to push me to sign up for their POTS services. They're quite content to sell just TV and internet. There isn't even a bundle incentive to go with U-voice.
What you describe with ditching TV service altogether will work for singles, but not so much for families. Unless there's a smarty in the bunch that's going to hook a PC up to a TV and diligently download shows/movies, less tech savvy groups will still find TV service to be a good value so they can easily enjoy shows together.
Digital OTA might work for some, though.
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maartena
Super Grover
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join:2002-05-10
Orange, CA
·RoadRunner Cable
| reply to decifal
Re: It's the economy, stupid!
said by decifal :So i'm on isdn till I die I guess.. Or till you move to a city with cheap broadband. |
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maartena
Super Grover
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join:2002-05-10
Orange, CA
·RoadRunner Cable
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Re: Speed it up?
said by blips :Maybe it should speed them up. As people cut cost they might decide that their cell phones are all they need and start cutting their land lines to cut down their month expenses. They need U-verse to keep these customers for defecting. That's one reason for me NOT to switch to AT&T. I am actually impressed by their TV setup, I have seen it at a friends house and it seems to work really well, and they offer 2 HD streams now which is what I would need with my HDTV (recording 2 HD shows at once).
But the Internet side of it blows. I have 15/2 from RoadRunner (15/2 within the next month anyways, now 10/1) and U-Verse offers a maximum of 10/1.5, and that's it.
I also receive a $5 discount on my internet for having digital cable, so if I decide to keep RoadRunner, my monthly bill for internet will increase with $5.
Until they offer something better on the speed side, i most likely won't switch to U-Verse. |
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decifal
join:2007-03-10
Bon Aqua, TN
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Re: It's the economy, stupid!
said by maartena :said by decifal :So i'm on isdn till I die I guess.. Or till you move to a city with cheap broadband. If everyone that wanted broadband had to move to the city, the city would be come soo over crowded it would be like mini chinas everywhere.. I don't live in a rural area, its just one of those areas that hasn't been upgraded "yet" ... I've seen lesser populated areas upgraded probably due to some sorta cost effectiveness..
To me personally, no option is great if theres a range limitation of 5 miles etc.. Isdn, no limitation, however... Its speed isn't what you would call "broad" |
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en102
Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA
·RoadRunner Cable
·DSL EXTREME
1 edit | reply to contrary
Re: Slow economy should speed UVerse customer growth
It would all depend on the deal.
AT&T is matching 'basic' TWC plans.. sort of.
AT&T: $90/month gives you (first year)
1 STB and Uverse (U100)
1 VoIP unlimited (where available  )
1 3Mbps/1Mbps connection
TWC: $90/month gives you (first year)
1 Digital TV package (choice or variety)
1 VoIP unlimited
1 HSI 6Mbps/512kbps
and standard analog cable for all other TVs.
Problem for me...
- 1 TV only
- Uverse VoIP doesn't exist in the Los Angeles area
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