DrStrange
Technically feasible
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join:2001-07-23
West Hartford, CT | So long, see ya later, bye!
Good riddance to bad rubbish. Given the potential for interference to MF and HF radio, this technology should never have seen the light of day in its present form. |
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TKJunkMail
Enjoy the sun
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join:2002-03-03
Avalon, NJ
 ·Sprint Mobile Broa..
 ·Comcast
| said by DrStrange  :Good riddance to bad rubbish. Given the potential for interference to MF and HF radio, this technology should never have seen the light of day in its present form. Well the FCC hasn't learned its lesson yet. They pushed BPL despite all the interference complaints and now they are doing the same with the unlicensed white space device push.
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Subaru
1-3-2-4
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join:2001-05-31
Greenwich, CT
clubs:  | reply to DrStrange
yes! don't have to hear this anymore I don't know why its taken this long to die.. it was pretty much dead before it ever started |
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en102
Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA
·RoadRunner Cable
 ·DSL EXTREME
| reply to TKJunkMail
I like the 'home' version of BPL - HomePlug works VERY well.
I prefer it to WiFi G for latency, stability and range.
I've been using HDX101 for over a year with very few issues.
The only time there's an issue - its when someone is running the hair dryer or vacuum on the same circuit (high load).
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powerline
@ca.gov
| HomePlug did NOT work well for me
I bought 2 Powerline adapters for my 2 story condo and there were problems. I returned the devices for a wireless D Link Router and problems are gone. Here were the problems:
1. I could not get my devices recognize each other, thus no "network" was created. It was NOT simple to reset the devices. Per the directions, you had to simu.taneously press the reset button on each device at the same time while plugged into an outlet. You can not plug these suckers into a surge protector because of interference. Thus, you need to have have 2 persons reset the devices.
2. My devices used/required Microsoft .net framework 1.1 When you upgrade microsoft's .net framework to the latest version or install a critical patch to .net framework, it breaks the utility which monitors your network, change settings, passwords, etc. |
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MalibuMaxx
join:2007-02-06
Chesterton, IN | Power line???
I thought it was broadband over power lineS... Whoops my bad this story has it right because thats how many power lines carried broadband... LMAO
So I guess the title fits! |
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Corehhi
join:2002-01-28
Bluffton, SC
| This was pushed as broadband to the everyone
That's why it was continually pushed forward. Some people are obsessed with the idea that connecting everyone to the internet at high speeds will some how make them all smarter, richer people.
Same as everyone needs a house and everyone needs a college education. The Govt just keep pushing these ideas. In the end it always fails because the Govt simply has no mind for business. |
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burner50
Pinlifter
Premium,VIP
join:2002-06-05
EN22wm | YAAAAY!!!
Good Riddance... |
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nasadude
join:2001-10-05
Rockville, MD
·Comcast
| reply to TKJunkMail
Re: So long, see ya later, bye!
said by TKJunkMail :Well the FCC hasn't learned its lesson yet. They pushed BPL despite all the interference complaints and now they are doing the same with the unlicensed white space device push. well, BPL was always a construct of the FCC to fool congress into thinking there was competition. now that it's impossible to deny broadband in the U.S. is anything but competitive and even congress can't be fooled about it BPL has died. the interference was real and well documented in ACTUAL FIELD MEASUREMENTS OF A DEPLOYED SYSTEM.
on the other hand, whites spaces utilization is pushed by consumer friendly companies that want to provide another broadband option and bring REAL competition. NAB and incumbents are screaming about POTENTIAL interference and insisting white space utilization be shut down. initial FIELD trials of prototype equipment seemed to show interference but in reality was the result of faulty FIELD TEST equipment. subsequent re-test shows the equipment works and it looks like the FCC will approve. the only thing I don't understand is why Martin isn't killing this.
in fewer words:
BPL: fake, hyped solution; consumers against, business for
white spaces: real solution, consumers for, business (incumbents and NAB) against |
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TKJunkMail
Enjoy the sun
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join:2002-03-03
Avalon, NJ
·Sprint Mobile Broa..
·Comcast
| said by nasadude :said by TKJunkMail :Well the FCC hasn't learned its lesson yet. They pushed BPL despite all the interference complaints and now they are doing the same with the unlicensed white space device push. initial FIELD trials of prototype equipment seemed to show interference but in reality was the result of faulty FIELD TEST equipment. subsequent re-test shows the equipment works and it looks like the FCC will approve. The FCC White Space report just released lists all kinds of interference issues. It is just that the backers of white space devices have co-opted Martin to ignore the problems. So, it is no different than the BPL problems. It is just that the backers of White Space devices have more political clout with the FCC than the electric companies pushing BPL had.
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TJ_in_IL
join:2006-06-10
Winthrop Harbor, IL
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·Teliax VOIP
·Comcast
·Teleblend
| NYS Pushing BPL`
My father recently (last week) asked me about BPL, since they are pushing it in New York State, in the upper tier. He sent me some links to some info, I will have to dig up and share the links.
I checked them out, and their website was very hokey... no real information, so service areas, etc. I e-mailed them with specific questions, and was replied too with a canned "visit our website for more information".
If BPL is truely dead, good for them, they deserve it.
TJ |
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ericjwill
join:2008-08-19
Williamsport, PA
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| Current Communications in Cincinnati
I am presently a current communications subscriber in cincinnati, ohio and I love the service. I find it very unfortunate that it is dieing, because the company is stellar in my experience. I get 3mbit synchronous and lower pings than my DSL/cable neighbors. If the network were to go down I would be only left with time warner, since cinci bell is terrible on my block. |
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nasadude
join:2001-10-05
Rockville, MD
·Comcast
| reply to TKJunkMail
Re: So long, see ya later, bye!
said by TKJunkMail : The FCC White Space report just released lists all kinds of interference issues. It is just that the backers of white space devices have co-opted Martin to ignore the problems. So, it is no different than the BPL problems. It is just that the backers of White Space devices have more political clout with the FCC than the electric companies pushing BPL had. The electric companies NEVER pushed BPL. Most of them didn't want to have anything to do with broadband and were only interested in the "reading the meters remotely" aspect. The few that did get involved did so reluctantly and don't seem bothered at all that BPL never went anywhere.
BPL got a BIG push under Powell and Martin kept the ball rolling.
as far as political clout, it's pretty amusing that you believe NAB and ATT are lacking in that area.
I haven't read the report, but if there are "all kinds of interference issues", then why is Martin saying this will get approved? Maybe he doesn't like NAB because of the indecency stuff, although he is pretty much on board with allowing companies to own as many radio and tv stations as they want. |
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james
join:2001-02-26
antarctica | BPL
And they said BPL wouldn't even last a year!! We sure showed them! |
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N3OGH
Bear patrol must be working like a charm
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join:2003-11-11
Philly burbs | reply to DrStrange
Re: So long, see ya later, bye!
hiphip HOORAY!
hiphip HOORAY!
hiphip HOORAY! |
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Mactron
el camino Real
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join:2001-12-16
CM94sv
| No chance of delivering
Good bye and good riddance. 
For those folks who mistakenly thought it would bring BB to the boondocks. There was never a chance of ever delivering, Sorry.
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patcat88
join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
| reply to powerline
Re: HomePlug did NOT work well for me
said by powerline :
I bought 2 Powerline adapters for my 2 story condo and there were problems. I returned the devices for a wireless D Link Router and problems are gone. Here were the problems:
1. I could not get my devices recognize each other, thus no "network" was created. It was NOT simple to reset the devices. Per the directions, you had to simu.taneously press the reset button on each device at the same time while plugged into an outlet. You can not plug these suckers into a surge protector because of interference. Thus, you need to have have 2 persons reset the devices.
AFAIK the 2 devices must be on the same phase, or better, on the same circuit. They can't go across transformers, not sure about power meters. |
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Asmodeus
join:2004-05-26
Spring Valley, CA | Finally. Thank God.
I knew it wouldn't work and I'm glad that it has finally died a quiet and faint death. |
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a333
A hot cup of integrals please
join:2007-06-12
Rego Park, NY | Agreed, finally, BPL can go into a corner and die a quiet death.... good riddance... |
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billybish
join:2005-03-28
Reston, VA | Buh-bye
Another solution looking for a problem. |
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