lev
Napoleon is always right
Premium,Ex-mod 2002-08
join:2001-05-30
Chicago, IL
clubs: 
 ·AT&T Midwest
| Price/performance ratio too high
DSL for years cost less than cable, offering a better value ratio for many consumers and prosumers.
Not the case these days. In my area, Comcast offers price competitive cable now, and static IP service with better speeds.
AT&T needs to drop the DSL pricing if they want to keep the marketshare. |
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fatmanskinny
Premium
join:2004-01-04
Wandering | How about adding more DSL tiers???
We have a business DSL account and the highest tier is 6MB/512K. Pathetic.
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Tcomp
join:2008-07-29
Greenbelt, MD
|  Closer look at DSL
Although the heady days of 500k DSL net adds may be over, at least for 3Q08, they are reversing the dramatic slowdown in DSL. They only had 34K net DSL adds, but in 3Q08, they had 148K. I think this could be driven in part by wireless/DSL bundles, sans a voice wireline.
Check out my analysis at '»telecompetitor.com/node/887' |
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djrobx
join:2000-05-31
Valencia, CA
 ·PHONE POWER
 ·AT&T U-Verse
·AT&T CallVantage
·Time Warner VOIP
 ·RoadRunner Cable
| Slow economy
Analysists who thought AT&T U-verse would miss their target probably didn't think it through.
A slower economy may very well slow deployment, but the big stock market crash didn't happen until almost October. At a minimum, AT&T would at least finish out whatever they had started so they can begin to recoup their investment. That sort of pinch is something we'd see more next year.
However, more immediately, people are looking to save a quick buck, and AT&T's generous promotions do just that. They're essentially offering you $200 just to give their services a try, without a contract. AT&T retentions was also offering very aggressive incentives to keep existing customers.
AT&T is no longer offering the first free month of TV, and from what I've read, they've significantly clamped down on the retentions promos. That's a good sign that things are going as planned. They've managed to get their Total Home DVR going and it looks like faster internet speeds and signficantly more HD channels are coming in November. They may not have the most cutting-edge network, and the system still has bugs to be worked out, but overall things are looking pretty good for AT&T U-Verse right now.
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en102
Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA
·RoadRunner Cable
·DSL EXTREME
| reply to lev
Re: Price/performance ratio too high
I agree.
Neither are 'cheap', however, cable has become fairly competitive (at least here in SoCal) for the basic price.
Eg. (1 year)
TWC: 'All the Best': $89.99
- 6Mbps/512kbps
- Digital 'Choice' and Analog TV (as many TV's as you can attach)
- Unlimited VoIP
AT&T: 30/30/30 (only where VoIP exists) - 1 year
- U100 (1 TV)
- Uverse VoIP
- 3Mbps/1Mbps
The problem with AT&T is.. they STILL don't have VoIP service available, adding another $25-$30 to the overall price.
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jkeelsnc
join:2008-08-22
Boone, NC
| Asheville area
I noticed driving around the Asheville, NC area over the weekend that there was a brand new big metal box near where my mother lives. It does not appear like the regular boxes that have been used for DSL before. In fact, it appeared there was already a DSLAM at that site before. In fact, the new box was much bigger, the size of a refrigerator or even larger. It appeared very similar to pictures I have seen of AT&T VRAD's for U-Verse. I wonder if this means that AT&T will be offering U-Verse in the Asheville area within the coming months and year. |
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veloct
Premium
join:2003-01-21
Moosup, CT
·Metrocast Communic..
·AT&T Yahoo
·LINGO
1 edit | meh
I would rather be in a Verizon area than this crappy AT&T service with very limited speeds (3Mb is the max I can get and it took some help from people here to get that). Cable is not any better here, cost is higher and less reliable.
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decifal
join:2007-03-10
Bon Aqua, TN
| Hmm Dsl addons slowing down... Hmmm Oh... They aren't building out dsl anymore... Its all Uverse/dsl capable equipment now.. And from what i've seen, they are only putting it in places with cable/dsl service already in place... NO build out deployment equals "much" less DSL subscribers.. I mean hell man its basic math... Deploy in areas that aren't serviced by anyone and BAM you get the market there first!... I'm seriously starting to believe that there are some major tards in the mix screwing things up with over guessed plans.
In short, want more subscribers? Deploy to areas not service by anyone yet, and you will get them.. Till then hold back the fake tears of "lack of interest" and get to work! |
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en102
Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA
·RoadRunner Cable
·DSL EXTREME
| reply to djrobx
Re: Slow economy
We'll have to see how many are going to 'keep' service in the coming months. This is becoming a pretty bleak quarter, and I don't expect things to turn around until spring/summer.
Its been a long time since I've seen stores in Valencia with 'For Rent' that were not new buildings.
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tad2020
join:2007-07-17
Orange, CA
·AT&T DSL Service
| reply to fatmanskinny
Re: How about adding more DSL tiers???
I just had one installed at my old office, highest tier is 3Mb/386Kb for $40 for 1 dynamic IP. I had to talk the CSR in to that price from the new $52 rate for the pro tier. Now that's pathetic!
ATT's website still shows the 'old' rate of $35, but you'd have to get full on phone service on the line to get that. ATT also tried to stick me with their $135 phone drop installation fee to put a phone jack 3 inches from the MPOE, at least the tech found the line for the drop I ran for it. Plus I have to deal with ATT's typical problems of only completing orders half way, totally wrong, or not at all; they managed to only get the order in for having the POTS line and totally lost the one for having DSL turned up on it. |
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DGLewis
join:2006-03-10
Freehold, NJ
| reply to Tcomp
Re: Closer look at DSL
In their analyst call, they cited an attach rate of "over 85%" for U-verse broadband. That means that about 200k of the 232k U-verse video adds also added U-verse broadband.
Total broadband net adds were 148k.
That means that vanilla DSL had a net loss of about 52k. (Disregarding WildBlue.)
OK, that's better than 2Q, when the same math puts DSL with a net loss of about 100k, but I wouldn't say that the slowdown in DSL was by any means "reversed". "Attenuated", perhaps. |
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ILpt4U
Premium
join:2006-11-12
Lisle, IL
·AT&T Yahoo
·AT&T U-Verse
·magicjack.com
| reply to decifal
Re: meh
I can say first-hand that I have done U-Verse installs in a semi-rural neighborhood & town where before AT&T installed the VRAD & the Fiber to it, there was NO existing Cable OR DSL. For TV, these people had OTA Antennas, or had to go with one of the Dishes, and for Internet, it was either Dial Up or Satellite Internet. AT&T installed the VRAD, well more people could get hardwire based TV & internet, at HSI speeds.
U-Verse deployment is NOT limited to Current DSL and/or Cable green areas. |
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db19
@sbcglobal.net
| ATT Uverse
I live in Houston and just cancelled my ATT U-Verse.
We had the 200 channel package, but 50 of the channels
were for religious preachers & tele-evangelists.
Nothing ruins a weekend faster then 50 preachers
telling you what NOT to do for fun. |
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CaptainRR
Premium
join:2006-04-21
Blue Rock, OH | reply to ILpt4U
Re: meh
Gosh I hope that is the case with me. I am in a rural area with ATT dialup with no cable and DirecTV for my TV. Hell I don't even have cell service!!! You never know these things take time and money I am sure it will make it every were someday. |
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ILpt4U
Premium
join:2006-11-12
Lisle, IL
·AT&T Yahoo
·AT&T U-Verse
·magicjack.com
| I don't want to give anyone false hope either. I don't know if U-Verse will ever be as universal as, say, POTS phone service.
My point was more that it is already turning some old cable & dsl dead zones, to Green for land-line based TV & HSI services. |
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hihi
join:2007-05-06
Port Orange, FL
| reply to en102
Re: Price/performance ratio too high
Cable speed is superior
Even thought I use DSL, I believe cable has a lot more potential
In the future DSL is obsolute
Now it's just an an alternative to dialup
Not an alternative to cable
it really is slow compared to most cable speed
sorry about the vent yea uverse is already dead in the water
it was failed to being and will fail in the future
it is a no brainer to avoid it and go cable
most PPL have cable and dsl service |
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hihi
join:2007-05-06
Port Orange, FL
| reply to db19
Re: ATT Uverse
said by db19 :
I live in Houston and just cancelled my ATT U-Verse.
We had the 200 channel package, but 50 of the channels
were for religious preachers & tele-evangelists.
Nothing ruins a weekend faster then 50 preachers
telling you what NOT to do for fun.
I totally agree
Wise move lol |
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morbo
Complete Your Transaction
join:2002-01-22
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clubs:
·Charter Pipeline
·AT&T Southwest
1 edit | reply to en102
Re: Slow economy
said by en102  :This is becoming a pretty bleak quarter, and I don't expect things to turn around until spring/summer. nice optimism. it's shared by many of the tv analysts. things won't turn around for 2 years at least. in the next 5-6 months, people will finally realize the extent of the ongoing financial meltdown. |
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anthonyNtx
@sbcglobal.net | Google search
I just googled in. I don't understand this website. The name is dslreports
Yet everyone here is badmouthing DSL technology and
And praising cable technology. It seems everyone here are cable people
So why bother coming here hating on DSL. |
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60529262
join:2007-01-11
Chicago, IL | reply to lev
Re: Price/performance ratio too high
Way to be a Comcast whore there, lev. Still pouting about not getting U-Verse, eh? |
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