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Comments on news posted 2008-10-23 18:29:54: Sandvine, a star player in this year's Comcast throttling controversy, has released a new study claiming that 61% of all upstream traffic is P2P. ..

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Cheese
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Really now.....

Another way to sell another product eh?


ninjatutle
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Hmmm

Thats a lot of linux distros, home movies and game patches being tossed back and forth.

SilverSurfer

join:2007-08-19

And In Other News...

Sandvine, a star player in this year's Comcast throttling controversy, has released a new study claiming that 61% of all upstream traffic is P2P.
Serial Rapists R Us released a study that proves 61% of all women raped were asking for it.

/sarcasm

russotto

join:2000-10-05
Collegeville, PA

Eh? So what?

Are the ISPs in the business of not providing bandwidth? What are they going to do, figure out what's the top at any given point and throttle it to death? If the phone company figured out that a majority of text messages sent on unlimited plans were content-free messages between teenagers, would they try to throttle those too?


sapo
I eat meat
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Yeah, screw providing a service. Limit us instead so you can make more money with the same capacity.

chronoss2009

join:2008-09-23
ok by the numbers

if most p2p is fair tradings then how can it be that 3 tmes as many people are upping to 1/3rd as many people

the math quite simple flaws it self right into the realm of a time vortex of doctor who.

Taget

join:2004-07-29
So what they are measuring...

...is what their customers enjoy doing and offering ways to prevent them from doing what they want to. Now that's what I call customer service.


ninjatutle
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Or preventing these rogue customers from clogging up the network for legit customers.

robl27
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Mary Esther, FL
bullshit

this is about controlling what we say/do on the interwebs.

and again.. the MafiAA are the thieves, not the consumer.

-Rob


BIGMIKE
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reply to Cheese
Re: Really now.....

61% Of All Broadband customer yous P2P.


espaeth
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Minneapolis, MN

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reply to robl27
Re: bullshit

So do you also believe that SPAM filtering should be forbidden, and DoS attacks should not be mitigated?

I'm just curious where you draw the line.


Cheese
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reply to BIGMIKE
Re: Really now.....

said by BIGMIKE See Profile :

61% Of All Broadband customer yous P2P.
You are assuming I P2P? No I do not.


SLD
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reply to ninjatutle
Re: Hmmm

I'm surprised you didn't make 1st post on this story! I thought the RIAA paid you better than that.


ninjatutle
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I got beat by 1 min. I was taking a number 2. Next time, I'll take my laptop with me.

k1ll3rdr4g0n

join:2005-03-19
Homer Glen, IL

Wait

Woha...woha...woha...back the information train up...

So your telling me Sandvine went to every ISP and either asked or installed hardware to monitor P2P to come up with numbers for this survey? I beg to differ.

This is pure and simple made up numbers. At the very least its a *very* poor estimate based on what the average person actually does. Anyone care to bet if the FCC will request that Sandvine give up how they got the stats for that survey?

I should call them up and ask myself....


Xizer

join:2004-02-05
New York, NY
Wait for TK Junk Mail...

To come in and tow the corporate line.

This thread is the perfect bait.


BIGMIKE
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Westminster, CA

Encrypt the Entire Internet

The Pirate Bay Wants to Encrypt the Entire Internet

The team behind the popular torrent site The Pirate Bay has started to work on a new encryption technology that could potentially protect all Internet traffic from prying eyes. The project, which is still in its initial stages, goes by the name “Transparent end-to-end encryption for the Internets,” or IPETEE for short. It tackles encryption not on the application level, but on the network level, the aim being that all data exchanged on your PC would be encrypted, regardless of its nature — be it a web browser streaming video files or an instant messaging client. As Pirate Bay co-founder Fredrik Neij (a.k.a. Tiamo) told me, “Even applications that don’t supporting encryption will be encrypted where possible.” »newteevee.com/2008/07/09/the-pir···nternet/

»https://tor-proxy.net/cgi-bin/enc/nph-pr···2e64652f


Doctor Four
My other vehicle is a TARDIS
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There are Lies, Damned Lies and Piracy Statistics...

To paraphrase Mark Twain.

When a company like Sandvine (who have a vested interest in controlling p2p traffic, or selling their hardware to ISPs that do this) says 61% of all upload traffic is p2p, it is suspect to say the least.

There is the issue of where they are getting their numbers from, and any such numbers are going to be tainted because they are partial to one side in the MAFIAA's war on p2p.

Similarly, if someone from say the Pirate Bay were to come out and say that only 20% of upload traffic is p2p, the same claim would be difficult to accept at face value.

Really, the only way to truly determine how much of the Internet's traffic is p2p, you would need someone who is not biased toward either side.
--
"The trouble with computers, of course, is that they are very sophisticated idiots." - Doctor Who (from Robot)

ja2007123

join:2007-10-06
reply to BIGMIKE
Re: Wait for TK Junk Mail...

and next thing you know, hackers paid by the government crack the encryption and there was much rejoice.....


pspcrazy
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reply to espaeth
Re: bullshit

That is the stupidest reply I 've read in 1 day (Tk's about mailing patches best you to that honor). No one likes spam, and no one like DOS attacks except the individual behind it. But P2P is 50/50 from what I'm seeing. I don't see some guy walking down the street saying "shit those damn p2p thieves are so hard to clean." It just doesn't happen.
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