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join:2000-12-14
Mckinney, TX
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| different data sources? demographics? why is my data so off? based on what numbers is really the question.. what volume of customers and profiles are you sampling, what service type, at what aggregation level... yada yada..
IMHO, American Tier 1 ISPs don't want to choke the end user for bandwidth you paid for.. ISPs do not want to be the arbitor of what is good/bad/ugly... like Pakistan or India for example.. American ISPs want to identify the bots from the human multimedia hounds... to weed out the element that still hasn't patch for Code Red & NIMDA.. can you believe I still see +50Mbps of that garbage waisting bandwidth?.. is it the ubergeek on his favorite tool? nope... maybe it might be the pc-newb who is owned, and the other 500,000 owned 24hr packet cannons.. that's who ISPs need to count, catch, and drop their flows to recover the over-subscription gains used back when dsl user at most used 5 kilobits per second... Once unthinkabe in my 8yrs with this network, now seeing a coordinated 2Gbps attack isn't so rare... all the while getting your torrent of the "Us Festival 1982-83 by Steve Wozniak" delivered on time and in sequence without retransmissions.
for your own comparison, i see a live network a bit differently. in a network i know of, way back in June08, the top 5 apps are: (sterilized and generalized of course... so entirely fictional as far as your concerned..
#1 @ >115Gbps peak busy hour is WEB (www, ssl, rtsp, flash-macromedia)
#2 @ >5Gpbs peak busy hour is MAIL (smtp, pop3, imap)
#3 @ >2Gbps peak busy hour is World of WarCraft.... 1Gbps peak busy hour is TIME (ntp)
#5 @ >1Gbps peak busy hour is XBOX
P2P finally shows it's head around #7... unless it's buried in http (where isps don't look anyway, nor do they want to look.. no ISP cares you're on farmsex.com at 4 in the morning..)
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"Put your hand on a hot stove for a minute, and it seems like an hour. Sit with a pretty girl for an hour, and it seems like a minute. THAT'S relativity."
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Amaluris
@cox.net | P2P does not mean illegal file sharing Using the term P2P in something like this is outrageously misleading. P2P is prevalent in many different technologies and industries today. For example, World of Warcraft makes use of P2P technology to help distribute data for their latest patches. | |
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LumpyDaMoose
join:2007-08-28
Lynn Haven, FL | bandwidth, shmandwidth You want to cut back upload traffic?
kill the bulk e-mailers! Will leave plenty of bandwidth for P2P and everything else. Bet Sandvine doesn't have any numbers on that usage. | |
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 | Sammer
join:2005-12-22
Canonsburg, PA
| Re: bandwidth, shmandwidth said by LumpyDaMoose  :kill the bulk e-mailers! Will leave plenty of bandwidth for P2P and everything else. True but not all bulk e-mailers are spammers. | |
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| hihi
join:2007-05-06
Port Orange, FL
| said by LumpyDaMoose :You want to cut back upload traffic? kill the bulk e-mailers! Will leave plenty of bandwidth for P2P and everything else. Bet Sandvine doesn't have any numbers on that usage. Our upload already stinks so talking about capping upload is as retarded as talking about the poor and saying they need to be capped on how much to spend otherwise they become rich!
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| EZway
join:2008-10-25
Fort Collins, CO
| RTFA...
All email traffic looks to be less than 2% of traffic.
Block it all and it no ISP would notice a change in bandwith consumption.
I was also surprised to find this on Sandvine's website:
»www.sandvine.com/solutions/SPAM_traffic.asp
looks like they do kill spam zombie traffic. | |
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Bellundo
@teksavvy.com | 61% Of All Upstream Traffic Is P2P Lets all hope and pray that vehicle of the devil Sandvine Corporation goes bankrupt. May they all rot in hell. | |
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Switeck
@comcast.net | 61% half full or half empty? Even if taken at face value,
"61% Of All Upstream Traffic Is P2P"
...being that it's coming from Sandvine...
Is that figure how much Sandvine lets "escape" to the internet or the amount BEFORE they cripple it all to heck? | |
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castanza
@alltel.net
| comcast and sandvine can go to hell!! The real question here is: What business of theirs is it what people are using their service for??? If I pay you $50 for 6/384 service, I should be able to use it as I see fit!!!
Comcast should stop this gestapo crap before people look elsewhere for service.... | |
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manofsnow
@verizon.net
| 61%
Please excuse my confusion but it appears that some posters harbor a hate for P2P. Which I find rather odd.
What I don't see is any mention of Messenger useage.....email useage....telnet useage....media players useage. Is a person to honestly think those do not use bandwidth but only P2P exploits bandwidth ?
An would it not be rightous to limit those...lets call them Services.....if P2P is going to be limited ? Or, perhaps everyone is suppose to be so ignorant as to believe that if they get away with limiting P2P those other Services wont be next in line to be limited. No more internet phone.....forget about listening to a media player...etc.,
As for the ISP and profits...to hell with ISP's...let them close down.......and just watch how quick another one will spring up. P2P people payed their ticket to ride the train just as everyone else...let them ride, ride, ride......and if they ride an ISP into the ground so what...the next ISP will built a better system. | |
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