baineschile
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Sterling Heights, MI | For all the bad about caps...
A price for life guarentee does sound pretty appealing. |
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jimbo48
join:2000-11-17
Hayward, CA
 ·AT&T DSL Service
·EarthLink
| More legalized sleaze
What can you say. You need to be a lawyer to sign up for any type of service from these type cretins. I surely hope that the Texas AGs have enough cojones to slap TW hard and fast for this trickery and legalized misrepresentation of the facts (and implications). This borders on extortion and racketeering.
I'm tired of reading the TOS agreements
from these "providers" that is so convoluted (intentional) not to mention offered in a font that is so mall an illegible that a lot of people(intentional) would miss it. The FCC needs to take a lesson from the SEC on legibility , understanding and disclosure. Financial disclosures are so heavily regulated that you must supply legal docs in a certain font and pitch and your offering must include implications to pending changes. I doubt though that anything of great social; import will come of this. Too many politicians are bought and paid for my these extortionists |
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Karl Bode
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join:2000-03-02 | reply to baineschile
Re: For all the bad about caps...
Sorry it's only a 12-month price-lock, not life. |
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Zen6
@rr.com | stupidity
From the brilliant minds that bought Aol, here is another executive snafu. |
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jimbo48
join:2000-11-17
Hayward, CA
·AT&T DSL Service
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Re: For all the bad about caps...
yep, like promising you gas at 1.50 a gallon, only you are limited to 1 gal/month. If you use more the price is 7.50 a gallon up through 10 additional gallons, then 15.00 for 11 or more gallons.All printed in draft mode font that's so light and so small(4 point or less) plus being buried in 25 pages of legalese and strung out in various locations as to make in almost invisible to the untrained reader. |
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Howdy1234
@rr.com | Huh?
What does AOL have to do with Time Warner Cable? Nothing! Know your facts. |
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MacLeech
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join:2001-07-14
SoCal
1 edit | TWC "Select" plan feedback link
Select Plan Details |
»www.timewarnercable.com/GoldenTr···ack.html
I suggest those concerned leave feedback direct with TWC.
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hopeflicker
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join:2003-04-03
Long Beach, CA
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Re: Huh?
said by Howdy1234 :
What does AOL have to do with Time Warner Cable? Nothing! Know your facts.
Know YOUR facts 
»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_Warner
Second line, first paragraph
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st0rm82
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join:2002-11-13
Quebec, QC | reply to MacLeech
Re: TWC "Select" plan feedback link
1$/GB, damn thats a bargain, my canadian ISP charge 7,95$/GB once you pass the stupid 20gb download limit...
Oh but we're not throttled... sigh.. |
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badtrip
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join:2004-03-20
Albany, CA | reply to MacLeech
I love the "Turbo Tier". "Frequent movie watchers" will blow through 40GB in a matter of days.
I looked on TWC site and didn't see prices. What are the prices for each of these tiers? |
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cryptmagic
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join:2006-06-26
New York, NY
| Another example of a cable company abusing its power, unless Fios or AT&T is in the area your out of luck. At least Comcast encourages internet usage, TW is just trying to milk there customers. The caps are set low so they can find a way to raise prices on customers without them realizing it. |
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MacLeech
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SoCal
3 edits | reply to badtrip
I thought their were 4 tiers and Select wasn't a seperate option... |
said by badtrip  :I looked on TWC site and didn't see prices. What are the prices for each of these tiers? Price list here:
»www.timewarnercable.com/MediaLib···2008.pdf
Not exactly, understandable since it's lacking speeds for each tier and only lists 2 out of the 4 available tiers (Basic and Lite aren't on the price list). The price list also makes it seem like the Select plan is a separate plan that needs to be picked and is not automatically an added "feature" to the existing plans for new customers.
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TKJunkMail
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join:2002-03-03
Avalon, NJ
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2 edits | reply to st0rm82
said by st0rm82 :1$/GB, damn thats a bargain, my canadian ISP charge 7,95$/GB once you pass the stupid 20gb download limit... Oh but we're not throttled... sigh.. TWC also allows a MOVE UP to a a higher plan with a higher byte transfer limit if you go over your limit. So if you are on a 20GB std tier, you can go to the 40GB tier instead of pay per GB charges. Jumping to a higher tier is priced at approx $.50/GB instead of $1/GB for straight overages.
»www.timewarnercable.com/GoldenTr···ectplan/
If you utilize more bandwidth than your Road Runner Select Plan package allows, you may either move to a higher tier of Road Runner service, which not only provides faster speeds but also provides more bandwidth per month; or, you may choose to stay at the same tier of service and be charged a $1 per GB Q&A here:
»www.timewarnercable.com/goldentr···ore.html
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badtrip
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Albany, CA | reply to MacLeech
The pdf you linked to is a study in how to confuse your customers so that they have no idea how much they are spending per month.
If I was in TWC country, I wouldn't give them a penny. |
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S_engineer
join:2007-05-16
Chicago, IL
·Comcast
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Re: For all the bad about caps...
"Industry stock jocks positively drool over adopting such a system"....are these the same stock jocks that trashed my annuity, pension, and kids future?
And then the media wonders why people snap!
These TOS agreements should be simplified to bulletpoints. I received one from Comcrap a couple of weeks ago and couldnt tell you what it said. Written for lawyers by lawyers.
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MacLeech
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1 edit | reply to badtrip
Re: TWC "Select" plan feedback link
Freudian slip? |
»www.timewarnercable.com/goldentr···are.html
"Welcome to the Power of You
I'm curious how TWC filters out all the ARP traffic common on most cable networks from being billed as used bandwidth... or do they? That's a few GB of traffic per month for most modems and other than powering down the modem (not an option for VOIP users), there is NOTHING an end user can do to stop it.
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jmn1207
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join:2000-07-19
Reston, VA
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| Aggressive Limits Might Be Great for the Consumer
This type of scheme might actually be a benefit for consumers in the long run. It completely opens the door for much smaller providers to step in and offer customers a more friendly and less controlling internet plan. I bet many people would be willing to put up with a great deal of strife that might potentially come along with a budding new internet provider if they felt they were being offered a fair product.
If the current cable conglomerates wish to reduce their product to nothing more than an overpriced luxury entertainment gimmick, let somebody else step up to the table and attempt to provide an important communication utility. And never, ever, take another dime from my taxes to support your business. I will support a utility, but not a glorified, technical version of People Magazine. |
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Mark Z
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join:2002-10-14
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| It is about Control
So much for just providing the pipe, when we take these initiatives in confluence with the financial crisis a clear picture starts to emerge of what is really happening.
The common thread is a power grab to control ever more aspects of our daily life. Our internet has freed us from corporate hegemony and they are fighting like mad to regain what they have already lost. They may yet wrestle control of our means of free information, but they sadly underestimate our emerging wisdom and don't seem to realize our naivete is shattered.
These "limits" are absurd, and please people don't think this is about bandwidth. This is about the control of information, the single most powerful weapon any intelligent human can wield. Stay aware, and CARE! They are counting on us to be looking the other way...
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Rombus
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join:2007-04-11
Columbus, OH
1 edit | DSLR, The Ant-Cable page!
Another bias filled anti-cable story from Karl makes it to the front page, big surprise! |
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jmn1207
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join:2000-07-19
Reston, VA
·Verizon FIOS
| reply to MacLeech
Re: TWC "Select" plan feedback link
I just can't seem to find any price differences for each of the capacity tiers. Can someone pay $29.95 for the 5GB tier or what?
I have a feeling that everyone will be paying too much for the service to begin with, and then they will be charged an additional fee depending on how much bandwidth they pick. There will probably be a very small price difference between each tier, but the glory in this scheme is racking up the dollars from users exceeding their limits.
This is a very, very shady operation. Certainly any competition can do better for the consumers in these areas. If there is no competition, then the rules and regulations imposed in these regions need to be investigated by a neutral party to determine if fair practices are being employed. And a ridiculous self-imposed Time Warner study would not count.
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