Gogo1
join:2004-05-27
Brooklyn, NY
| Now comes with twice as many crap channels as before!
"DOCSIS 3.0) will allow the cable provider to increase standard definition channels from 100 to 200+"
Bit pointless when only enough decent content is made to fill about five hours (generous) of air time a week across all time slots and all channels. What will they do with the other 33595 TV hours? Reruns? Infomercials? |
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| said by Gogo1  :Bit pointless when only enough decent content is made to fill about five hours (generous) of air time a week across all time slots and all channels. What will they do with the other 33595 TV hours? Reruns? Infomercials? If you like sports, there are many more hours of HD available than that.
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needforspeed59
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| reply to Gogo1
It sure doesn't take long for someone to crap on what seems like a pretty good-news story. What equates to qulaity air time is completely subjective. Heck, opinions in our home vary from me, my wife and my two kids. Myself; I am looking forward to more HD programming. I love movies in HD. More speed? Bring it on, baby!
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AMDUSER
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If it was me, I would install the Vyyo Inc 3 Ghz spectrum overlay. It would effectively upgrade the cable system to 3 Ghz without having to rebuild the cable systems.
In some areas, Cox is deploying it, »www.cable360.net/ct/news/thewire/22781.html .
That would allow for quite a bit more channel bonding as well. |
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Dogfather
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Laguna Hills, CA | It's easy to "conquer" bandwidth when you have 40GB caps
While they're not enforced now there is nothing saying they couldn't in the future. |
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funchords
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| Karl, you Ignorant Slut
"Why is this news? You must stop this non-stop attack against cable. Your pro-telco agenda is so transparent. How much are the twisted-pair-asites paying you?"
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kfsutops
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Of Course there is no bandwidth crunch. Nobody really believed that did they?
Bandwidth crunch has been nothing buy a propaganda campaign to steal more money from customers.
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funchords
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Re: Now comes with twice as many crap channels as before!
said by AMDUSER :If it was me, I would install the Vyyo Inc 3 Ghz spectrum overlay. It would effectively upgrade the cable system to 3 Ghz without having to rebuild the cable systems. In some areas, Cox is deploying it, » www.cable360.net/ct/news/thewire/22781.html . That would allow for quite a bit more channel bonding as well. Thanks! Can you please give a couple of sentences that puts this into meaning for those of us who are on the primer? What exactly is happening here?
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imrf
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1 edit | reply to AMDUSER
Just curious, have you looked into how that works? From what I just read, it's that same ultra-wideband crap that's flopped a bunch of times. They don't upgrade the whole network to 3Ghz, rather it overlays and injects data at certain points in the network. |
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major marco
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Re: It's easy to "conquer" bandwidth when you have 40GB caps
said by Dogfather :While they're not enforced now there is nothing saying they couldn't in the future. Cox/oc does in fact cap/throttle. Ever try to download anything 50 megs and over? Try it sometime. There may not be an enforcement of capping, per se, but the throttling is sure abundantly enforced. The nanosecond FIOS ever becomes available in Stepford, I'll drop Cox services quicker than you can say bandwidth. Docsis 3 will start to look exactly like what it is.......a joke and a half.
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Dogfather
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1 edit | I have no problems with large files. I get powerboosted speeds of 30Mb and then it drops to 10-11Mb which is fine considering I have the 9Mb preferred tier. I don't use BT so I haven't been subjected to traffic shaping. My unencrypted Giganews doesn't seem to be subjected to special traffic shaping.
As far as monthly usage, I regularly blow through my monthly caps and haven't gotten an 'abuse' letter since the @Home days. |
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sirghost
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Re: Karl, you Ignorant Slut
said by funchords :"Why is this news? You must stop this non-stop attack against cable. Your pro-telco agenda is so transparent. How much are the twisted-pair-asites paying you?" I got one question for you. How is this article attacking cable and being pro telco? |
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Ulmo
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1 edit | Those 3 things
would actually fix bandwidth concerns for at least the next 5 years, I agree.
When they upgrade their customers to SDV, they ought to throw in H.264 as well (or at least XVID). That way, they can deliver higher quality per cost, or lower cost per quality, or both.
Is this affordable in their market plan? I mean, they only charge a gazillion dollars per month, and this is going to cost them at least a small bunch of money to implement.
Unfortunately, they are content providers, not pipe providers, so there's so much management that is in their hands, that it might be too much, if you get their utility. |
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NetAdmin
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Re: Karl, you Ignorant Slut
said by sirghost :I got one question for you. How is this article attacking cable and being pro telco? Based on all the smilies at the end of the post, I think that was sarcasm.
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ajwees41
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Re: Those 3 things
said by Ulmo :would actually fix bandwidth concerns for at least the next 5 years, I agree. When they upgrade their customers to SDV, they ought to throw in H.264 as well (or at least XVID). That way, they can deliver higher quality per cost, or lower cost per quality, or both. Is this affordable in their market plan? I mean, they only charge a gazillion dollars per month, and this is going to cost them at least a small bunch of money to implement. Unfortunately, they are content providers, not pipe providers, so there's so much management that is in their hands, that it might be too much, if you get their utility. that would kind of hard since the older style non hd hd/dvr don't see the H.264 or XVID codec new boxes boxes would be needed. |
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cornelius785
join:2006-10-26
Worcester, MA
| reply to Ulmo
i'd also like to see a more modern and efficient source encoding scheme, but you have to make sure the cable boxes are capable of decoding the compressed video stream. i have a feeling that the cable industry is going to be changing a lot over the next few years. there are all sorts of new encoding schemes now, cablecard similar technologies, network infrastructure upgrades, and probably others. i suppose the same can be said for the telcos. could be an interesting several years ahead. |
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pnh102
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| No Point in SDTV
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The upgrade ... will allow the cable provider to increase standard definition channels from 100 to 200+ and HD channels from 8 to 100+.
Great. Cox is investing in yesterday's technology. Why bother increasing the number of SD channels at all when HD programming can more easily be crappified to be viewable on any SD television?
Is Cox going to invest more money in horse and buggy technology too?
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iansltx
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| Caps
If you look at it, technically they shouldn't have a bandwidth crunch at all right now; their caps top out at 75 GB/month! Granted, they're lax about enforcing those caps, but really, the ope is that they'll at least increase caps to Comcast levels when they do upgrade the network. Also, wonder what "affordable" means in the context of a 25 Mbps connection. $63-ish per month with cable like Comcast's new D3 22/5 tier? What will be the upload speed? Honestly I'd much rather have a 15 Mbps symmetric connection than 25/2 or 25/5. 20/20 (like FiOS) would be better, but that's about the extent of the bandwidth I'd want Too bad cable can't do it without upstream channel bonding...something Comcast has elected not to do yet. |
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funchords
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Re: Karl, you Ignorant Slut
said by NetAdmin :said by sirghost :I got one question for you. How is this article attacking cable and being pro telco? Based on all the smilies at the end of the post, I think that was sarcasm.  -- yep. Our friend Karl gets unfairly bashed pretty good by some who think he's shilling for the Telco industry.
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