Chrono
@spcsdns.net | Hmm...
Still doesn't change the fact that I can't get it here. |
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pandora
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Outland
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|  Where I live my choices are, 1.5m / 384k from AT&T DSL, or 6m / 1m service from Comcast. Comcast is about to double the rate, AT&T plans to make no change.
I wish we had more options.
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heen
@comcast.net | japan
Technically, Japan also uses DSL a lot more than you think. Most buildings have fiber run to the building and then uses VDSL to bring it to all the apartments. Much cheaper that way. |
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iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
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| DSL Cable here and at home
Back home: 1.5/512 Windstream is fastest DSL. 15/2 TWC RR is fastest cable.
Here: 5/896 Qwest is fastest DSL. 8/2 (16/2 business) Comcast is fastest cable.
Cable speeds are as advertised due to overprovisioning. DSL in both cases is not overprovisioned, so 85% of rated speeds are common.
Especially on uploads, DSL is just lame compared to cable, at least around here. |
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Skippy25
join:2000-09-13
Hazelwood, MO
| reply to pandora
Re: Hmm...
said by pandora  :I wish we had more options. Doesn't about 95% of the country.  |
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keyboard5684
join:2001-08-01
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|  How many countries?
I think they just did not do enough research.
There are a a lot of countries in the world and Japan, Europe, China, South Korea, and what, there where a couple more, do not make up the world.
Most countries, in my travels, use wireless.
Why, because telcos provide shotty service or use radio technology.
Most use cellular for voice and it has really boomed because there was no running copper in many of the countries.
So my analysis, my statistics, say wireless is the winner. Go to Belize and order phone and broadband? You get an antenna on the roof and a "landline" in the home (which is really a cellular to POTS converter) and broadband comes from wireless providers usually.
I do not want to leave out VSAT systems which probably make up most of the worlds broadband.
Those are my stats.
In the US... my stats says the majority is nothing, if we talk about country wide coverage. If you life next to a CO or in a place "of interest" then you get coverage!
But, here is the odd thing. I looked around on google a bit and my stats show the majority of internet use is, DIALUP! |
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Duramax08
Oh rly?
join:2008-08-03
San Antonio, TX | I got to call BS on this
How is it dominate? The DSL range sucks bad. I am only 2k feet away and I cant get it.
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iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
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| reply to keyboard5684
Re: How many countries?
Majority of internet use by people may be dialup-ish, but majority of internet usage by volume is definitely broadband. My family back home, with their wireless connection, use the internet more than ten dialup users I'd think, and their usage is relatively light.
As to the stats, note that the countries in question were OECD. Read up on what countries they mean...we're not talking the whole world here... |
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iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
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| reply to Duramax08
Re: I got to call BS on this
In the US, I think cable is actually the leading broadband provider. Outside of the US though DSL reigns supreme; there are far fewer cable providers and it's either DSL or fiber in most areas in Europe/Asia. Which generally have better population density so length-limited DSL works better. |
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jchambers28
join:2007-05-12
Alma, AR | reply to Chrono
Re: Hmm...
I have the same problem as well. I have load coils on my line and I am too far from the co. I wonder what percentage
of people don't have access to dsl services. |
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ehender2
join:2008-10-26
Calgary, AB
| Fiber
Just a note about fiber. It seems that almost 20 yrs ago many US companies like A&T applied for and got permission from the US Feds to add a surcharge to their exsisting customers PHONE bill to cover the cost of going to Fiber. Now there is a lawsuit or two in the US trying to either get the US Companies to put in the lines or refund,because although they have been collecting the surcharge in many States, no fiber has been put in. This all came up when the US companies applied again for a surcharge to cover the cost of putting Fiber lines in. I guess the US co's had forgotten they were already collecting.
I have not been able to find out if Canadian Telephone Co's got the same permission around that time. If I were a betting man, I'll bet Canadian Co's jumped on that bandwagon. |
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Core0000
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join:2008-05-04
Somerset, KY | reply to Skippy25
Re: Hmm...
Lmao, ain't that the truth.
Actually, I just want more quality from the provider I already have...  |
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Core0000
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join:2008-05-04
Somerset, KY | reply to ehender2
Re: Fiber
I'm really curious about this, do you have any links to the source? or any more info? |
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cornelius785
join:2006-10-26
Worcester, MA
| I'm also curious about this. i've heard about it before, but never bothered to read the complete story behind this. assuming what was said was true, i doubt it was a complete waste.
does it really make sense to deploy fiber from the telco office to a house when the 'backbone' that carries the data from the fiber lines to the internet is incapable of handling all the data. i don't know anything about how the phone network (in detail) has changed over the past decade or so, but I think the point of the infrastructure not being able to handle FTTH for internet access is still valid. |
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ehender2
join:2008-10-26
Calgary, AB
| reply to Core0000
The info I have came up on Google. I did some research into fiber because the District of East Kootenay had a questionaire or plebiscite about installing fiber lines. There was a lot of heated debate because of the expense and the community elected to not take it.
The info I have is on my cabin computer or I would attach a link here.
I'll be at the cabin sometime next week so I'll attach a link then. I have not googled it today. |
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elray
join:2000-12-16
Santa Monica, CA | Why is this bad?
The copper is in place, paid for, and provides adequate bandwidth. |
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unlucky one
@cais.net
| huh....
lucky for you guys, with ur "mbps" connections 
im still on crappy 256/64 with the 3GB Download montly limit since 17months
"why you don't upgrade to faster speeds?"
-256/64 3GB DL 3GB UL 3GB $33/month
-512/128 4GB DL 4GB UL $46/month
-1024/256 5GB DL  5GB UL 76$/month
2048/512(so called "HDSL") 8GB DL  8GB UL  $200/month
Price of Installation and equipement for 2048/512 HDSL =$572
"why not just find another ISP"
-hmm one ISP in the whole Country that has a acceptable Latency that's under 400ms...hmm not alot of choices is there?
"Where do you live"
-Lebanon, where Internet Sucks to the max!! |
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keyboard5684
join:2001-08-01
Youngsville, PA
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| reply to iansltx
Re: How many countries?
No, I was just making a point though.
OECD is just an economic makeup.
As far as your usage stats go, not true. I have worked for carriers most of my career and dialup traffic takes the cake. Dialup users download just as much, it just takes longer. Therefore with more dialup users than broadband the usage (bits loaded) is higher. |
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fonzbear2000
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join:2005-08-09
Saint Paul, MN
1 edit | Comcast cable>>>>>Qworst DSL
Where I live, I have Comcast's 12m/2m connection and the best I can get from Qworst is 1.5m/896k. Qworst has become the laughing stock of my house!
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Kiwi
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join:2003-05-26
USA
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| reply to keyboard5684
Re: How many countries?
I like the way you are viewing this, but to add a wee bit; the places most notable have a restricted urban base, on the whole, suburbia is America's 1st World problem. Once rural comes into play any statistic that endeavours to incorporate broadband is destined to failure, or at least mock figures. Figures and percentage are fun things to play with but are not realistic any more, they are simply tools for fools. |
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