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Comments on news posted 2008-10-27 09:07:02: Initially, there were three front-runners for the fourth-generation wireless broadband crown: 3GPP LTE (Long Term Evolution), mobile WiMax and 3GPP2 UMB (Ultra Mobile Broadband). ..

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baineschile
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Safety?

Talking on the phone while driving is bad enough, do we really need to encourage surfing while driving?

Maybe ATT and VZ should start investing in an AIcar, where one can just punch in a direction, and the call will drive there (see Will Smith in I, Robot)

Dont get me wrong, the idea of mobile data that fast is a good start, but maybe there should be testing it where people SHOULD be using it (couch at home, table at coffee shop), not what kind of speed they can achieve while driving.

exception: taxis

EPS

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What if you're not the one driving? Another thought would be public transportation systems, that's one of the places mobile broadband can be most useful if it exists.

axus

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reply to baineschile
There might be applications we haven't thought of yet. Maybe some combination of GPS and advertising.


BF69

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what's the point?

Faster speeds mean nothing when you have 5 GB monthly caps. Since the TOS of mobile providers prevent downloading of video and using the connection for online gaming what is the point of 100 Mbps? You don't need 100 Mbps to look at your e-mail which is all you can basically do on a mobile interent connection.


baineschile
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Re: Safety?

Thus the exceptions: taxis at the end


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Re: what's the point?

Ah but once the majority of their customers have the capability to do stuff that quickly, they will gladly upgrade you to a higher bandwidth tier.


Killa200
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and also upgrade you to a nice, higher price with that oh so lovely "profit cushion"... lol


tc1uscg

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The lab is busy

Nice see the LAB is still busy testing LTE. Alarming that it's news..

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Re: what's the point?

But if you're working with sub-kilometer distances from towers, this isn't going to be home broadband replacement. Heck, AT&T could put VRADs near the towers and have VDSL speeds similar to what they're getting over LTE.

Then again, they'll proably not put enough bandwidth to the tower and thus the oh-so-fast LTE won't be able to live up to its full potential. I mean, technically their current HSPA service should be able to pump out 3.6/1.8 speeds. I've only seen about 1.5/500-700 when I've used it (not anymore...5 GB caps and no prepaid option).

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Re: The lab is busy

Nextgen WiMAX 802.11m will be out by the time LTE makes it out the door. 802.11m is able to do 300Mbps mobile and 1Gbps fixed. Of course individual users will probably not ever really see this.

The challenge for all 4G carriers will be providing enough bandwidth to every site and having enough spectrum. ATT/Verizon only have about 25Mhz or so per market in the 700mhz space. Sprint/Clearwire will have over 100Mhz per market of 4G spectrum.

Talking theoretical MAX makes for good marketing though.


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said by xenophon See Profile :

Nextgen WiMAX 802.11m will be out by the time LTE makes it out the door. 802.11m is able to do 300Mbps mobile and 1Gbps fixed. Of course individual users will probably not ever really see this.

The challenge for all 4G carriers will be providing enough bandwidth to every site and having enough spectrum. ATT/Verizon only have about 25Mhz or so per market in the 700mhz space. Sprint/Clearwire will have over 100Mhz per market of 4G spectrum.

Talking theoretical MAX makes for good marketing though.
Not to mention that Sprint/Clearwire will have had roughly two years head start on both Verizon and ATT. Xohm will be fully rolled out in many markets long before the first LTE test markets come on line. Sprint/Clearwire might even be rolling out "version 2" of Xohm by the time the LTE crowd gets to the dance floor. Two years is a good amount of time to pick up a few hundred thousand (or well more than that) subscribers, Verizon/ATT should be very careful here!
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mrchris
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Real world application

Show me some real world application results and not some test lab results and I'll take it more seriously.


ninjatutle
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Re: The lab is busy

The problem with WiMAX is the coverage. They wont have the same coverage as these cell sites. Not good for a mobile user.

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reply to baineschile
Re: Safety?

How about integrated driving features. Alerting you to lane closures in upcoming miles from accidents/construction. Congestion and alternative route suggestions. Video amber alerts, not to mention the ability of public services to communicate more effectively.
Integrated content access to your libraries at home. (think music, and DVD's for the kids in the back seat) Not to mention social network extensions, where you could share with your friends where you are at any given time.


phoneboy3

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Re: The lab is busy

You read my mind. LOL!

This is just more Telco propaganda designed to cool enthusiasm for Mobile WiMax. A standard that is every bit as good and fast as LTE and at least 3-5 years ahead of it.

Even the Telco's are admiting it won't be available until at least 2010. Looking at history that would mean in reality we are looking at 2012-2015. It will be game over by them IMHO. WiMax already won. The loser just doesn't know it yet.

Ahrenl

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If they're still in business in two years.

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said by ninjatutle See Profile :

The problem with WiMAX is the coverage. They wont have the same coverage as these cell sites. Not good for a mobile user.
Combo EVDO/WiMAX cards will be coming by the end of the year. It would be an issue for WiMAX/WiFi only devices for a few years though.


ninjatutle
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reply to Ahrenl
MetroFi lasted 2-3 years. It was free and nobody wanted it. I see Xohm going the same route but maybe lasting 1 year.

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There will be winner or loser, they'll both co-exist. This isn't like Bluray/HDDVD fight. It's more like cable vs. dsl, satellite tv vs cable tv. There was no 'winner' in the latter two as the playing field is defined by what resources are available to the provider.

WiMAX will be pushed by IEEE and the consumer electronics industry. LTE will be pushed by the telcom industry. Both will exist long term.


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said by xenophon See Profile :

There will be winner or loser, they'll both co-exist. This isn't like Bluray/HDDVD fight. It's more like cable vs. dsl, satellite tv vs cable tv. There was no 'winner' in the latter two as the playing field is defined by what resources are available to the provider.

WiMAX will be pushed by IEEE and the consumer electronics industry. LTE will be pushed by the telcom industry. Both will exist long term.
I agree. It will be like CDMA/GSM is here in the states.
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