Dogfather
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join:2007-12-26
Laguna Hills, CA | So how will Verizon answer the loss of copper subs?
Price increases and new junk fees. But it looks like putting customers over a barrel with endless crap fees works give their profit increase. |
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baineschile
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join:2008-05-10
Sterling Heights, MI | Why upkeep DSL when....
Youve invested 70 BILLION in running fiber to homes. |
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TKJunkMail
Enjoy the sun
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join:2002-03-03
Avalon, NJ
 ·Sprint Mobile Broa..
 ·Comcast
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Re: So how will Verizon answer the loss of copper subs?
said by Dogfather  :So how will Verizon answer the loss of copper subs? »money.cnn.com/news/newsfeeds/art···UNE5.htm
Verizon Wireless added 1.5 million retail customers, and another 630,000 from the acquisition of Rural Cellular, for a total of 2.1 million customers.
jump past AT&T as the nation's largest wireless provider when it completes its $28.1 billion acquisition of rural wireless provider Alltel Corp.
Verizon picked up 233,000 FiOS TV customers
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cryptmagic
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join:2006-06-26
New York, NY | reply to baineschile
Re: Why upkeep DSL when....
Especially when they intend to switch to an all fios network. It requires less maintenance then dsl and the regular copper network. SO long term they save on how many employees they need to keep the network up. |
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nasadude
join:2001-10-05
Rockville, MD | reply to Dogfather
Re: So how will Verizon answer the loss of copper subs?
well, if they can get off their @sses and get fiber to my house, I will give them an add. |
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danclan
join:2005-11-01
Midlothian, VA
 ·Verizon FIOS
| reply to cryptmagic
Re: Why upkeep DSL when....
said by cryptmagic :Especially when they intend to switch to an all fios FIBER network. It requires less maintenance then dsl and the regular copper network. SO long term they save on how many employees they need to keep the network up. Fixed that for you.....  |
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tim_k
Buttons, Bows, Beamer, Shadow, Kasey
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join:2002-02-02
Stewartstown, PA
·Millenicom
 ·WildBlue
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said by cryptmagic :Especially when they intend to switch to an all fios network. It requires less maintenance then dsl and the regular copper network. SO long term they save on how many employees they need to keep the network up. They do not intend on switching to an all FIOS network. When will that get through to some of you. If you live in the big city, upscale neighborhood, or a politically favorable area, you may get it. Those of us in rural areas will never see it.
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Smile__
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join:2008-10-10
New Freedom, PA | reply to baineschile
23 Billion.. Get it right.. lol |
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EPS
join:2008-02-13
Hingham, MA | reply to tim_k
If Verizon gets their way, you won't be seeing big Red as your ILEC for long either- the long-term plans appears to be to convert what's profitable to FiOS, and sell off the rest to someone else, ideally with huge tax benefits. |
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iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO | reply to danclan
Nah. It's an all FiOS network. if you look back they've talked about running xDSL to rural areas instead of fiber :/ |
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Ahrenl
join:2004-10-26
North Andover, MA
·Verizon FIOS
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I live next to Lawrence, MA, one of the 5 poorest places in the US. They were wired for FIOS before we were. Does this fall under "politically favorable"? In that case, what doesn't fall under one of the three.
I expect them to install their network everywhere they can get an adequate ROE. Would you expect otherwise? |
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Richard B
Fur It Up
join:2007-06-22
Portland, OR
·Comcast
| Lets not forget
While Verizon is pushing FIOS to SINGLE OCCUPANCY HOMES, all I get in my APARTMENT mailbox is Verizon offer “amazing fast” 768K/128K. At the same time, Comcast offered me an upgrade to 8Mbps tier. MDU FIOS still vaporware and I will be switching to digital voice. Can it be Verizon putting all its attention to fiber and neglecting its copper customers is the reason for loss of DSL customers? Nah says the cult of fiber. |
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EPS
join:2008-02-13
Hingham, MA | Uh, I thought it was commonly accepted that Verizon was neglecting its DSL infrastructure to push out FiOS faster? |
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spudmanmike
join:2002-11-24
Gales Ferry, CT | TXTing
I'd expect their VZW division is carrying the company.. When they are charging 20 cents PER text message for no-plan customers is just highway robbery. I remember reading how much it costs per MB of data was huge! |
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satellite68
join:2007-04-11
Louisville, KY
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Re: Why upkeep DSL when....
quote:
Lawrence, MA, one of the 5 poorest places in the US
»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_th···d_States
Uh, off topic, but not so much. |
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cypherstream
Looking forward to the future of things.
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join:2004-12-02
Reading, PA
clubs:
| DSL is slow, FIOS is much better
Why would I get DSL when the fastest tier is 3mb? I had Verizon for home phone service and with the Caller ID, Call Waiting, Long Distance, etc... that we wanted, the bill was about $60 a month. With Comcast I have the triple play bundle and the phone with all of those features (plus web access) is $33 a month (will be $39 a month) which is cheaper. Plus Comcast HSI with Powerboost is MUCH FASTER than crappy DSL.
BUT on the flipside, if Verizon invested in a FIOS network in Berks County, PA, I would go with them. Verizon knows they need to spend money to make money. Build it and we will come. I'd love to have 100 HD channels and Verizon Fios TV, plus sustaned up and downstream speeds. Multi Room DVR, advanced DVR software with PC connectivity, reliable service and all in a triple play bundle. Verizon do you hear me? Build it and I will come! |
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Ahrenl
join:2004-10-26
North Andover, MA
·Verizon FIOS
| reply to satellite68
Re: Why upkeep DSL when....
Depends how you define poor. $1,100 of per capita income goes A LOT farther in Texas than it does in Mass. My info is dated, I'll admit, but I don't think its gotten any better over there. At least not according to the daily police log in the local paper. |
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inachu
join:2008-01-07
Germantown, MD | Verizon nerds! Question
What if I want to go hard core and tell the verizon sales people I have a fiber optic nic card in my pc.
Could I possibly be able to still use it and bypass all that extra junk that they might try and rent to me? |
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creeperz
join:2001-03-03
Max Meadows, VA | Anecdotely
90% of the DSL I take out in the CO are customers moving to Fios. |
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tim_k
Buttons, Bows, Beamer, Shadow, Kasey
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join:2002-02-02
Stewartstown, PA
·Millenicom
·WildBlue
| reply to Ahrenl
Re: Why upkeep DSL when....
said by Ahrenl :I live next to Lawrence, MA, one of the 5 poorest places in the US. They were wired for FIOS before we were. Does this fall under "politically favorable"? In that case, what doesn't fall under one of the three. I expect them to install their network everywhere they can get an adequate ROE. Would you expect otherwise? No, I'm sure ROE plays into most of the reason an area get FIOS, but I'm sure politics also does. Perhaps Lawrence, MA is in the district of some hotshot politican, or maybe they are deploying there to avoid charges of red lining. All I can tell you is that FIOS will never reach 100% of Verizon's copper customers. The only way Verizon will be 100% FIOS is if they are able to sell off areas that they don't plan on deploying it to.
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