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Comments on news posted 2008-10-30 15:00:56: On the heels of rumored plans by both Comcast and Verizon to deploy femtocells, AT&T is poised to also offer the technology soon. According to Unstrung, AT&T is the last of the big three cellular operators in the U.S. ..

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Tomek
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Femtocell

Isn't that simply a technology that T-Mobile uses with their @Home service. I have UMA phone and call through my router. Must say it's a win-win solution for me. While that way I get perfect coverage, it also helps with roaming.
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wifi4milez
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said by Tomek See Profile :

Isn't that simply a technology that T-Mobile uses with their @Home service. I have UMA phone and call through my router. Must say it's a win-win solution for me. While that way I get perfect coverage, it also helps with roaming.
No, this is something totally different. This service broadcasts an actual GSM signal that your phone (or any other GSM phone) can use.
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tshirt
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join:2004-07-11
Snohomish, WA
·Comcast

say what....??

A cellphone customter should pay for their Broadband, plus buy an additional $100 device, pluse pay $15-30 amonth more so AT&T doesn't have to improve coverage for a device/sevice the already bought?
The user should get a discount, plus a free femtocell, since they are paying for the access.


RolteC
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And what I don't understand is:

What is to stop half your block from using YOUR mini tower for access?

I have not at all researched this technology, so if anyone can provide links, then thank you.


danza
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join:2002-08-23
It's strange

that you have to pay them to use your internet bandwidth and extend their coverage.

It's supposed to be other way around since anyone with ATT will be able to hop on your mini 'cell' and use it like ATT's cellphone tower.


wifi4milez
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reply to RolteC
Re: say what....??

said by RolteC See Profile :

And what I don't understand is:

What is to stop half your block from using YOUR mini tower for access?

I have not at all researched this technology, so if anyone can provide links, then thank you.
The Sprint device enables you to only allow specific phones (based on IMEI I think) to access it. Alternatively, you can leave it open and only 3 to 5 people can use it at a time. I assume the ATT device will also allow for whitelists.
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J3ff

join:2007-09-10
East Hartford, CT
reply to danza
Re: It's strange

They are paying money because it can turn their cell phone into an unlimited home line. Basically allowing you to ditch your home service.

With sprint many people have gotten the device for free and the service free (I was one of them).


bender
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reply to danza
any chance that someone could sniff out the calls going into these femtocells?

mlx52
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Winnetka, IL
Does this allow full internet and texting on the phones as well. I would buy this in a heartbeat from ATT if it meant I could get coverage at my lake house, where there isn't currently any signal.


schja01
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Sprint does't charge $20 or $30 for unlimited calling

Actually Sprint only charges $10/mo for unlimited calling or $20 for multi-cell families. That's on top of the required $4.99/mo for using the device. That assumes you actually pay the fees as Sprint has waived the $100 one time charge and $4.99/mo in many cases.


Tomek
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reply to wifi4milez
Re: Femtocell

So wouldn't that be a similar concept? With the exception that GSM -> Internet conversion is done in the femtocell instead of headset?


RockyBB
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Longmont, CO

reply to mlx52
Re: It's strange

said by mlx52 See Profile :

Does this allow full internet and texting on the phones as well. I would buy this in a heartbeat from ATT if it meant I could get coverage at my lake house, where there isn't currently any signal.
if you have broadband at the lake house, then the femtocell is exactly what you need to get cell coverage in the home.


wifi4milez
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Re: Femtocell

said by Tomek See Profile :

So wouldn't that be a similar concept? With the exception that GSM -> Internet conversion is done in the femtocell instead of headset?
Similar idea, however your UMA service only works on the (very few) handsets that support it. Femtocell service on the other hand, can be used by every phone on the market today (except those by Nextel). Lets say you live in a cellular "dead zone", you put one of these there and any GSM/CDMA (depending on which femtocell you have) phone will work. Its a much broader application than the UMA service, but essentially does the same thing.
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Rob 23

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Does this mean ATT will offer standalone DSL and a femtocell or just offer this to U_VERSE customers. At $15 a month it will replace cable voip and pots at $40 a month. If it's ATT or VZ cellphone svc they have the ability to pick the call at the 1st hop for QOS and you don't need the cellphone,you can speak into a larger bluetooth or sync enabled device for better call quality.(they should just use wi-fi)

Youngjm

join:2002-04-01
Ada, MI
·Comcast

How do you reconcile this to ISP's prohibiting open access

ISP's such as Comcast prohibit open access points that create traffic above and beyond your own personal use. It will be interesting to see if Comcast and others block this type of traffic since you may not be able to limit the access to those phones of the user purchasing the internet service?

decifal

join:2007-03-10
Bon Aqua, TN

Here is what kills me.. People who are more likely to need a stronger signal from a cell tower are the same people that don't have access to broadband.. I'm sure this will help a lucky few that have broadband that live in a valley or behind a structure blocking signals.. But this overall doesn't help the mass as it requires broadband....


Tomek
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reply to mlx52
Re: It's strange

or get yourself UMA enabled phone.

daveberstein

join:2002-07-15
New York, NY
AT&T Femtocells

Think ten million if the trial go well, and a cloud across half the country.
Ideas welcome on how this changes things.


swintec
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reply to bender
Re: It's strange

said by bender See Profile :

any chance that someone could sniff out the calls going into these femtocells?
No. At least with Sprint..the traffic is running over a VPN.
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bnceo

join:2007-10-11
West Orange, NJ

Sprint Airave

Anyone here have the Sprint Airave? I am really considering getting this when I move in with my girlfriend. She lives in a wireless deadzone (Sprint told me no new towers there for 18 months). I don't think anyone mentioned that they also offer this service for 4.99 a month if you just want to use your cell phone plan.
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