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Comments on news posted 2008-11-04 15:26:58: A few weeks ago Comcast unveiled some new speed tiers for markets that are being upgraded to DOCSIS 3.0. ..

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DaMaGeINC
The Lan Man
Premium
join:2002-06-08
Greenville, SC
clubs:
Ehh

12/2 would suit most people fine. Hell, I dont even need more than that really. Well, ok, I do, but I would settle for 12/2.

Rob2647

join:2008-08-12
Rochester, MI
And

People rather not pay that much to hit that 250gb cap to quickly.

zjumper

join:2004-08-17
Baltimore, MD
if i had comcast, which i don't...

22/5 tier of course...


dadkins
Can you do Blu?
Premium,MVM
join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA
·Comcast

Upload is king!

Back when 3mbps/256kbps was the norm, and 4mbps/384kbps was "speed", I went for "speed" just to get the higher upload.

FFW to today, I still have the highest speed available to me, mainly for the 2mbps upload.
So, when this new upgrade hits, and I can have the same upload speed for $10.00 less per month... well, DUH!

Maybe when D3 gets here *and* I can buy my own modem, I will get the 22/5 service.
Again, just for the upload speed!
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TKJunkMail
Enjoy the sun
Premium
join:2002-03-03
Avalon, NJ
·Sprint Mobile Broa..
·Comcast

 12Mbps/2Mbps for $42.95 best for most users ....

...even those who do a lot of video streaming. The ones who could benefit from the higher Docsis 3 tiers will be people who are working from home and constantly uploading engineering drawings or other very large files frequently to their place of work or to vendors they are under contract to.

Another group would be those who need to backup critical data online daily and need the higher upload speeds to accomplish that in some limited timeframe.

But unless you have a true BUSINESS service with a SLA with Comcast( and these plans aren't that, even the D3 speed plans), then you would probably run up against the 250GB cap even at the lower tiered offerings. So ultimately, I don't know many who would benefit from the higher tiers at the declared cap level of 250GB/month.
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krazymon2

join:2008-01-13
Coraopolis, PA
·Comcast

My thoughts are..

Right now I am on the 16/2 tier. When the 22/5 tier becomes available it would be worth the extra couple of bucks compared to what I pay now for the extra speed. Even if I don't feel I am using the extra speed others in my home might and if its not being used I can always downgrade to the 12/2.

raptor1418
Premium
join:2002-12-03
Denver, CO
·magicjack.com
·Mesa Networks

Not point in going faster

With the cap at 250, the fact that I am now on my second call to comcast in the last week for service just not working and the fact that I am never home anymore to really use my connection, I will be dropping my service to the 12/2 once the upgraded tiers are in my area.

It will save me $10 a month until comcast decides to jack their prices up or until telco/cable companies get there way with the FCC. Wish some real competition would come into my market so I would at least have a plausible choice in service providers.


Cheese
Premium
join:2003-10-26
Naples, FL
clubs:
When....

Do I get my 12/2?


baineschile
2600
Premium
join:2008-05-10
Sterling Heights, MI
reply to zjumper
Re: if i had comcast, which i don't...

LOL, always with the cap.

Remember, faster speeds wont change downloading habits, it will just make smoother


badtrip
East Bay
Premium
join:2004-03-20
Albany, CA
·Unwired Ltd
·Comcast

reply to TKJunkMail
Re: 12Mbps/2Mbps for $42.95 best for most users ....

the caps prompted me to downgrade my comcast speed to their lowest tier (comcast's unreliability prompted me to leave).

based on what i was doing as a comcast customer, i'd imagine the same saavy folks who wold be willing to fork out the cash for the higher tiers are the same folks who object to caps (the power user). imo comcast shot themselves in the foot by implementing caps before they rolled out the faster teirs. they should have done it thr other way around.


swhitney2003
I can't drive 55.
Premium
join:2003-06-13
NH
clubs:
and then there is powerboost.

For most users the 12mbps tier will look identical to the 16mbps when powerboost is in effect. So... essentially the two tiers act/are the same, except for the price difference.


jt4

@comcast.net
reply to badtrip
Re: 12Mbps/2Mbps for $42.95 best for most users ....

but the cap is really high 250gb. you would have to watch stream movies 8 hour a day everyday of the month to reach the cap.


en102
Canadian, eh?

join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA
·RoadRunner Cable
·DSL EXTREME

reply to DaMaGeINC
Re: Ehh

This is where 'tiered caps' will start to come into effect.

Assume the following were true for these new packages:

768kbps - 10GB
12/2Mbps - 40GB
16/2Mbps - 150GB
22/5Mbps - 250GB
50/10Mbps - 500GB

Same pricing... but capped. Now which would most pick ?
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jt7

@comcast.net
reply to swhitney2003
Re: and then there is powerboost.

powerboost only work for the first part of the download. not the whole thing. the 16mbps is for the while download not just part of it.


TKJunkMail
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Avalon, NJ
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reply to jt4
Re: 12Mbps/2Mbps for $42.95 best for most users ....

said by jt4 :

but the cap is really high 250gb. you would have to watch stream movies 8 hour a day everyday of the month to reach the cap.
I agree, if that is what your major activity is. But if you are a user backing up gigabytes of files nightly to an online server or are an engineer working from home, then none of these plans are appropriate. You really need a business SLA agreement, whether that is from Comcast or from a telco if Comcast won't or can't provide a business service to your residence.

And Comcast has 2 levels of business customers.

One is just people working from home(heavy but not huge bandwidth needs) or maybe a restaurant or Real Estate office looking to provide internet access with a higher grade of customer support. And here is some info on that:
»www.comcast.com/corporate/busine···net.html

The second is for real big data needs and for this type of service there are SLAs, dedicated customer support and account managers, and access that is typically NOT a coax connection off of a typical residential node. Access is often FTTP and is ethernet based as well. See here for the REAL business services that Comcast offers:
»www.comcast.com/corporate/busine···ult.html
Especially, the following 2 offerings:
»www.comcast.com/Corporate/Busine···net.html
»www.comcast.com/corporate/busine···ine.html

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banditws6
Shrinking Time and Distance

join:2001-08-18
Naples, FL
·Comcast

reply to en102
Re: Ehh

Interesting point. I'd be more than happy with 12/2, but if they broke down the bandwidth caps this way, I'd have to upgrade to 16/2 out of necessity alone.
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jester121
Premium
join:2003-08-09
Lake Zurich, IL
Obviously...

Like any typical DSLReports member, naturally I demand unlimited free internet with no caps, and any company that won't provide that is GREEDY and EVILLLLL.

jriskin

join:2001-10-11
Topanga, CA
·Verizon FIOS

Personally...12/2 OR 22/5

I would probably go for 22/5 but I would recommend 12/2 for people who want to save money. 16/2 just doesn't make any sense... if 4Mbit actually makes a difference to you then you will probably spend the extra money and get 22/5.

They should make the in-between rate 16/3 than it actually makes sense again.


CableTool
Poorly Representing MYSELF.
Premium
join:2004-11-12

Half Baked

Im not really disagreeing with the thought process. Im moreso disagreeing with what the conclusion is based on.

quote:

One recurring theme we've seen in our forums is that the new speeds have many users actually downgrading service. In both forum threads and polls, many customers on Comcast's 16Mbps/2Mbps tier say they're downgrading to their 12Mbps/2Mbps tier
You have two users, one anonymous that might not even had 12/2 available and 2 other users stating they would downgrade when it is available. Thats a weak 4 in a 3 page thread.

And the poll is simply asking what tier people would subscribe to, not if they would downgrade.

So are 4 forum members really what we are basing this MASS EXODUS of DOWNGRADING on?

I predict customers, much with past speed increases, will see a dramatic increase in speed and smile and keep right on trucking.

What do I know. Ive only been in the industry for 14 years.
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pilotboy72

@bcop.com
Connections Capped Anyway

What's the difference? I have the 16/2 tier now and most connections max out at 8mb anyhow.
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