swhitney2003
I can't drive 55.
Premium
join:2003-06-13
NH
clubs:  | Atleast it hasn't gone up.
At least the price of Comcast HSI hasn't risen in years. Theoretically, it is getting cheaper due to inflation :-D |
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nona404
@comcast.net
| said by swhitney2003  :At least the price of Comcast HSI hasn't risen in years. Theoretically, it is getting cheaper due to inflation :-D You obviously do not know how inflation works. Inflation does NOT happen when the economy is in near or in recession area.  |
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jmn1207
Premium
join:2000-07-19
Reston, VA
 ·Verizon FIOS
| What About the Taxes?
Do the European and Asian broadband industries get significant support from their government? If so, where is this money coming from to provide everyone with these fantastic speeds and prices? If the people are paying more in taxes to have their government regulate and finance the infrastructure, shouldn't that be considered in the overall cost? |
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Morac
join:2001-08-30
Riverside, NJ
 ·Comcast
| reply to swhitney2003
Re: Atleast it hasn't gone up.
Comcast's HSI is extremely profitable for them so there's no reason to raise prices. They have also cut costs for themselves by getting rid of UseNet and implementing caps and throttling.
Finally they partially subsidize HSI with income from their TV packages so in theory when your cable TV rates go up, Comcast gets more money for HSI.
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S_engineer
join:2007-05-16
Chicago, IL
·Comcast
| reply to swhitney2003
said by swhitney2003 :At least the price of Comcast HSI hasn't risen in years. Theoretically, it is getting cheaper due to inflation :-D It has just in a different way. They hold a knife to the throat by bundling your HSI w/cable. If you don't have cable, you pay an extra 20%. But if you do have HSI/cable, they just raise the cable rates. Don't ever think Comcast has stagnant rates, they always find a way to raise them! |
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morbo
Complete Your Transaction
join:2002-01-22
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clubs: | reply to nona404
huh?? |
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hobgoblin
Sortof Agoblin
Premium
join:2001-11-25
Orchard Park, NY
clubs: | reply to Morac
"Finally they partially subsidize HSI with income from their TV packages"
Totally false.
Hob
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Morac
join:2001-08-30
Riverside, NJ
·Comcast
| said by hobgoblin :"Finally they partially subsidize HSI with income from their TV packages" Totally false. Actually it's true. That's why Comcast charges more for HSI if you don't sign up for the TV service.
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papi4baby
join:2008-01-19
Callaway, MD | Really
Im going to pull something out of my behind here, because i don't know any better.
But is it really for us the consumer that prices have gone down! Or for the operator that bandwidth prices have gone down! |
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SilverSurfer
join:2007-08-19
| U.S.: Becoming a 4th World is the Goal in BB
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Also considering the cutbacks in services (newsgroups) users are seeing, price per MB doesn't show the full picture of subscription value (or lack thereof).
Let's also not forget how inferior BB is in the U.S. compared to other developed countries like Japan & Korea. |
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RayW
Premium
join:2001-09-01
Layton, UT
clubs:
 ·XMission
1 edit | Here we go again.....
I can see this degenerating into "they can do (insert point), why can't we?" with cherry picked facts or opinions to prove/disprove the 'point' for both deployment and charges.
I read an article synopsis released 01 May 2008 that I think balances the various polarities here on this site. It gives a good synopsis of why certain countries can do what they do compared to what other countries do. And I also know that some folks here will not care what the circumstances and facts are, but will continue to try and fit the size 14 foot into a size 5 slipper, so flail/flame away.
The part that seems to make the most sense with the least bias is at the top of the synopsis entitled "Key Findings and Conclusions:". This part seems to be well thought out and fairly accurate, at least for the mentioned countries I have spent time in. But I can assure you, I can pick any one part of this section and prove that any one of the opinions on this site (DSLR) is correct and justified, and do the converse. It must be considered overall with the circumstances for each locality taken into account.
The second major part of the synopsis entitled "Building a More Effective Broadband Policy" appears to be more biased towards the company's (ITIF) background but they do have some good suggestions. While I do not agree with all their suggestions, for various reasons that I will not go into, they do have some good ideas.
»www.itif.org/index.php?id=142 is the synopsis
»www.itif.org/files/ExplainingBBL···ship.pdf is the 108 page dissertation.
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dadkins
Can you do Blu?
Premium,MVM
join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA
·Comcast
| reply to S_engineer
Re: Atleast it hasn't gone up.
said by S_engineer :said by swhitney2003 :At least the price of Comcast HSI hasn't risen in years. Theoretically, it is getting cheaper due to inflation :-D It has just in a different way. They hold a knife to the throat by bundling your HSI w/cable. If you don't have cable, you pay an extra 20%. But if you do have HSI/cable, they just raise the cable rates. Don't ever think Comcast has stagnant rates, they always find a way to raise them! But even without HSI, the cable TV rates still go up.
Cable TV gets rate increases from the likes of ESPN and the other networks. Do you think that they will just eat it and keep the TV prices down?
Fuck no! They will slide those rate increases right over to you and I!
Now, my HSI has yet to get an increase... no amount of speculation can explain that - and it isn't because of TV.
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djhexer
join:2002-10-07
Sparks, NV
| May be cheaper now...
But when caps get fully enforced and they charge you per GB. THEN IT WILL BE MORE EXPENSIVE!!!
heres a question. How could they implement caps if you do not have a user "Im computer illiterate" odometer to tell you how much data you are using.
Also it should be on the hardware where it resets every month. (there could be issues if you have software say if the computer crashes or you have wireless router)
It's like buying a car and they tell you it can go 0-100 in 5 sec BUT I cant tell you how many miles you put on it. |
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openbox9
join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA
·AT&T Southeast
| said by djhexer :Also it should be on the hardware where it resets every month. (there could be issues if you have software say if the computer crashes or you have wireless router) It will be a tool provided by ISPs. |
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openbox9
join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA | reply to SilverSurfer
Re: U.S.: Becoming a 4th World is the Goal in BB
What makes broadband in the US inferior? What do you think that you can realistically accomplish in other locals that you can't accomplish in the US? |
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openbox9
join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA
·AT&T Southeast
| reply to papi4baby
Re: Really
said by papi4baby :But is it really for us the consumer that prices have gone down! It's fuzzy math. My guess is that costs for consumers aren't really decreasing that much, but the cost per mbps is as ISPs roll out more bandwidth to end users. |
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SilverSurfer
join:2007-08-19
| reply to RayW
Re: Here we go again.....
said by RayW :I can see this degenerating into "they can do (insert point), why can't we?" with cherry picked facts or opinions to prove/disprove the 'point' for both deployment and charges. Which is true for practically any topic. Just face the facts here. The U.S. pays the highest rates for the least quality. Caps/throttling/service cuts/outages. These are a just few of the "services" we pay for, and, the per month pricetag increases arbitrarily because there isn't any meaningful competition in any given market and the FCC lacks the political balls to do anything except kowtow to their provider masters. |
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S_engineer
join:2007-05-16
Chicago, IL
·Comcast
| reply to dadkins
Re: Atleast it hasn't gone up.
your right, as the industry raises rates, comcast will pass those along. But your still paying an extra $15 to $20 if you choose HSI without cable.
So in essence, they got you paying extra without cable, or with cable.
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aaronwt
Premium
join:2004-11-07
Woodbridge, VA
1 edit | I'm glad I have FIOS.
I'm glad I have FIOS. I only pay $1.80 per megabit with my 50mbs tier. $90 a month for my 50/20 tier.
That's down from the $3.20 per megabit I paid in 1997 when I had 5mbs down with Jones cable.($16 a month) |
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dadkins
Can you do Blu?
Premium,MVM
join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA
·Comcast
2 edits | reply to S_engineer
Re: Atleast it hasn't gone up.
Snag from this month's bill |
If you want Cable TV you pay for Cable TV with all the nice rate hikes - cable companies are mainly a cable TV service.
If you want Cable HSI only, you get to pay full price for it - aka without the two service discount.
I had cable TV for years before ever getting HSI. Price has gone up kinda regularly. 
5 years ago, I added HSI to my cable service.
The price then was $42.95.
About a year into HSI, I opted to pay $10 more for the added speed(mainly for the higher upload speed).
That pushed my HSI to $52.95 per month
Cable TV has kept on having the yearly/bi-yearly price increases.
This month's Comcast bill states that my HSI is still $52.95.
Now, even if I didn't have HSI(with the discount), the Cable TV price will have still been increased, right?
So, my HSI has not had a price increase in 5 years(depending if you want to count the $10 Extra for speed).
According to my bill, the discount is $14 for having two srevices.
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