S_engineer
join:2007-05-16
Chicago, IL
 ·Comcast
| "wait and see"
I'm sure he'll be aggressively looking at deployment where Charter stands a chance, but their debt is the 4 Million pound gorilla in the room.
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"For duty and humanity!"
- Moe Larry and Curly (MEN IN BLACK, 1934)...These are the guys we have in Congress |
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robl27
Premium
join:2008-07-16
Mary Esther, FL | Cox...
When will we get this type of service??!!!
/me drools...
and what type of Caps are in Charter's TOS agreement?
-Rob |
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DarkLogix
join:2008-10-23
Baytown, TX | What they should do
They should deploy in non-FiOS areas
then they'd be the fastest in that area and have a better shot at getting people to go to new more expencive tiers |
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iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO | 16 Mbps is still faster than anything but fiber... |
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Karl Bode
News Guy
join:2000-03-02 | That's just it. There is zero incentive to upgrade in rural, non-competitive markets where the local telco is still offering 3-6Mbps DSL. |
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docsis 30
@comcast.net | Perhaps they could apply for a government
bailout for the 21 billion in debt?
Why not..every one else is. |
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Lazlow
join:2006-08-07
Saint Louis, MO | reply to Karl Bode
Re: What they should do
In the areas with Uverse(St. Louis) the new 18 meg speed may spur them on to boost speeds. |
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bzmeteorite
join:2006-02-15
Nipomo, CA
| reply to docsis 30
Re: Perhaps they could apply for a government
Yup, because the internet is a utility!
</sarcasm>
Anyhow, I like the idea that they want to upgrade their infrastructure, but it makes no sense to do so unless it's a sound, sustainable business plan. I'd rather see slower speeds and caps than them implement something that will cause them to go down under only to be assimilated by a much more evil company.
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What happens when you combine common sense and an outspoken personality? |
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RR User
@rr.com
| Docsis 3: If TWC can't, Charter can!
How does one of the most debt-ridden cable providers plan to offer Docsis 3, yet one of the most profitable and large providers (TWC) seems to have no plan to offer Docsis 3. All we get is news of their testing with ridiculously low caps.
If Charter wants to get out of debt, they should consider slapping on 5GB/mo caps with $1-2/GB overage fees. Now there's an idea! With a speedy Docsis 3 connection you could only imagine the profit that will start streaming though the pipes! |
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raw
War Eagle
Premium
join:2001-01-17
Madison, AL
clubs: | reply to Karl Bode
Re: What they should do
...and in said non-competitive (not necessarily rural) markets, the prices are also ridiculously high because Charter knows there is no legitimate alternative. |
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morbo
Complete Your Transaction
join:2002-01-22
00000
clubs: | reply to RR User
Re: Docsis 3: If TWC can't, Charter can!
don't give them any ideas. that would have me fleeing back into the arms of, ugh, AT&T. |
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Skippy25
join:2000-09-13
Hazelwood, MO | reply to S_engineer
Re: "wait and see"
Dont you mean the "21.031 billion" pound gorilla? |
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accountant_joe
@charter.com
| said by Skippy25  :Dont you mean the "21.031 billion" pound gorilla? Knock their debt all you want. They have great credit and have been profitable the last 4 + years. |
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watts3000
join:2002-01-21
Birmingham, AL
| reply to morbo
Re: Docsis 3: If TWC can't, Charter can!
Actually I think Charter is starting to pay off sum of there debt. I think that was a much larger number a few years back. I'm a charter customer with 16 megs and I love the service. Right now Charter does not do caps and thats what I like Uverse will be coming to my area soon but I will not switch from Charter. |
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plover
@charter.com
| reply to iansltx
Re: What they should do
said by iansltx :16 Mbps is still faster than anything but fiber... Fiber can be rate limited the same a coax. I fail to see the point. It's not the FIOS companies are offering a GE to your PC. In fact, most cable companies have greater backbone capacity than the telcos. Unless you are looking at a national level. Locally, nothing beats cable (imo) |
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jca2050
Premium
join:2002-02-04
Lewisville, TX
 ·Verizon FIOS
| The percentage of FiOS customers that see speed drops is extremely rare, I know I never have. Verizon is in the middle of nationwide GPON deployment which splits 2.4Gbps downstream and 1.2Gbps upstream between 32-64 users. The current BPON tech that most customers are on split 622Mbps downstream and 155Mbps upstream between 32 users. How does that compare to cable? |
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Lazlow
join:2006-08-07
Saint Louis, MO | reply to accountant_joe
Re: "wait and see"
Can you really say a company, that was $19B in debt a couple of years ago and is now $21B in debt now, is profitable? If those numbers were switched I would still question it. |
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plover
@charter.com
| reply to jca2050
Re: What they should do
said by jca2050 :The percentage of FiOS customers that see speed drops is extremely rare, I know I never have. Verizon is in the middle of nationwide GPON deployment which splits 2.4Gbps downstream and 1.2Gbps upstream between 32-64 users. The current BPON tech that most customers are on split 622Mbps downstream and 155Mbps upstream between 32 users. How does that compare to cable? To the Docsis 3.0 8 channel system ...pretty comparable. Plus no need to split between 32-64 users on DOCSIS. 340MB/120MB on 3.0 8 channel (per user). |
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Lazlow
join:2006-08-07
Saint Louis, MO | No, plover. Even on Docsis 3.0 those channels are shared. Yes, it adds more channels per user to minimize congestion, but they are all still shared channels. |
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iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO | reply to raw
Basically, at this point, "competitive" means wherever FiOS and UVerse are. Qwest isn't competitive, even with their 20 Mbps tier. |
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