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It's like trying to sell a .9beta product when the gold release is now available.
Now that laptops are coming with WiMAX built in, it will be a little more self-marketing as 802.16e rolls out. When WiMAX becomes standard on most laptops in a year or so, it will be even more self-marketing. Someone sees a hotspot, thinks it's WiFi and may give it a shot for a day.
The old Clearwire also had no marketing push of any kind. Now that they will become a major multi-$B company, they'll probably have a real marketing group.
I did like the Xohm name though and it has a better image than Clearwire already. |
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"As they prepare to become new-ultra-mega-super-clearwire..."
That is good Karl! 
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en102
Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA | As Clearwire has a small footprint
They should not expect to have many subs.
I would expect their subs to initially be those that are college/university. Those that want a mobile ISP but not the mobile price/contract.
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funchords
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It might be tempting for people to carryover the reputation of Clearwire to New Clearwire, which has different management and philosophies in addition to different technology.
Even here on DSLReports, there ought to be a delineation between Clearwire and New Clearwire -- just like it does with Verizon DSL and Verizon FIOS (although those are the same company) -- just as it did with AT&T Broadband and AT&T Comcast (which was the same technology but a brand new company was created).
The old Clearwire is a very restricted service, with caps and cutoffs and no promises of openness and -- as Karl described -- a consumer impression that it was ghetto broadband at best.. As a condition of FCC approval, the new Clearwire comes with built-in (and enforceable) promises of openness -- users are free to use whatever applications, protocols, and frequent any sites that they want. Giving the New Clearwire a clean slate will also help to illuminate that these promises were made and help ensure they are kept.
I don't believe the low subscription predictions will hold within its footprints (of which it will start with probably two by years end). The New Clearwire's version of WiMax beats the crap out of every other mobile broadband performance in the USA. Of course, how it's packaged into useful tiers will help decide it for consumers.
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jt4
@comcast.net | att comcast. never heard of att comcast. comcast has bought some of att market. comcast bought the bay area cable system from att and upgrade to fiber to the node. |
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EPS
join:2008-02-13
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| Comcast bought all of AT&T Broadband, essentially, and briefly during the proceedings an entity named "AT&T Comcast" was created (which changed its name back to Comcast after it completed), much like how in this new Sprint-Clearwire merger a new entity called "New Clearwire" will exist that will then change its name to "Clearwire". |
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funchords
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In 2002, parts of AT&T Corp. and its subsidiaries and affiliates and (the former) Comcast Corporation and its subsidiaries and affiliates merged to become a new entity called AT&T Comcast Corporation.
The AT&T was later dropped from the name. |
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Test99
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San Jose, CA | Good Reviews For Xohm
The reviews of Xohm have been good. |
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Sammer
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Canonsburg, PA | reply to funchords
Re: Verizon DSL vs Verizon FIOS
IOW AT&T sold its cable interests (mostly from the purchase of TCI) to Comcast. |
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funchords
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| said by Sammer  :IOW AT&T sold its cable interests (mostly from the purchase of TCI) to Comcast. No, while that would be "in other words," it's neither what I said nor how it went down. This was a merger. See below.
COMCAST COMPLETES AT&T BROADBAND TRANSACTION
Company to Focus on Basic Video,Deploying Broadband Cable and Internet, and Customer Service
Philadelphia - November 18, 2002 - Comcast Corporation (NASDAQ: CMCSA;
CMCSK) today announced that its transaction with AT&T Broadband is complete,
bringing together cable assets serving more than 21.4 million subscribers in 41
states.
The new Comcast Corporation, formerly named AT&T Comcast Corporation,
provides digital cable to 6.3 million customers, high-speed data to more than 3.3
million customers and cable phone service to more than 1.3 million customers.
Brian L. Roberts, Chief Executive Officer of Comcast, said, "This is an historic
moment for the entire Comcast family - including our employees, customers and
shareholders. This vibrant new company is a leader in serving consumers with
exciting new products and technologies, and is focused on providing the highest
standards in customer service.
"Comcast is a financially strong company uniquely positioned to generate
significant benefits for our customers and shareholders alike. Our focus now
turns to bringing all of our cable systems up to the Comcast standard, quickly
moving to deploy digital cable and data to meet the growing demand for these
products, and continuing to deliver consistently strong financial results. I'm
excited for the many opportunities that lie ahead of us," said Mr. Roberts.
C. Michael Armstrong, Chairman of Comcast, said, "Today marks the birth of a
leading national broadband communications media and entertainment company.
The people of Comcast and AT&T Broadband should be proud of what they have
created, and excited for the opportunities that the future is sure to bring. I'm
looking forward to working closely with Brian and the management team to help
realize the potential of this great new company."
Under the terms of the previously announced transaction, AT&T has spun off
AT&T Broadband and combined it with Comcast. As a result, AT&T
shareholders are entitled to receive 0.3235 shares of the new Comcast
Corporation Class A common stock in respect of each share of AT&T common
stock they owned at the close of business on Friday, November 15, 2002, the
record date for the spin-off, and will continue to hold their shares of AT&T
common stock. Comcast shareholders will receive for each share of old
Comcast common stock one share of the corresponding class of the new
Comcast common stock.
The new Comcast common stock will begin trading under the NASDAQ symbols
CMCSA and CMCSK on Tuesday, November 19th .
The Comcast Board of Directors consists of 12 directors. The five directors
appointed by Comcast from its board are: Decker Anstrom, Sheldon M. Bonovitz,
Julian A. Brodsky, Brian L. Roberts and Ralph J. Roberts. The five directors
appointed by AT&T from its board are: C. Michael Armstrong, J. Michael Cook,
George M.C. Fisher, Louis A. Simpson and Michael Sovern. The jointly
appointed board members are: Kenneth J. Bacon and Dr. Judith Rodin. --
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jester121
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| It wasn't a merger OR a spin-off, but rather a combination of the 2. In your own quote Rob,
Under the terms of the previously announced transaction, AT&T has spun off
AT&T Broadband and combined it with Comcast. As a result, AT&T
shareholders are entitled to receive 0.3235 shares of the new Comcast
Corporation Class A common stock in respect of each share of AT&T common
stock they owned at the close of business on Friday, November 15, 2002, the
record date for the spin-off, and will continue to hold their shares of AT&T
common stock. |
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Sammer
join:2005-12-22
Canonsburg, PA | Whatever, it was a very good deal for Comcast and mostly an attempt to cut losses by AT&T. |
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MrMoody
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join:2002-09-03
Smithfield, NC | reply to Test99
Re: Good Reviews For Xohm
5/1 for $25/month, sign me up for that! |
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Sammer
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Canonsburg, PA
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Re: Beta
said by xenophon :The old Clearwire also had no marketing push of any kind. Now that they will become a major multi-$B company, they'll probably have a real marketing group. They couldn't afford a real marketing group, they were underfunded. Sprint will own 51% of New Clearwire. Another 22% will be owned by the companies providing that multibillion investment. |
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funchords
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Re: Verizon DSL vs Verizon FIOS
said by jester121 :It wasn't a merger OR a spin-off, but rather a combination of the 2. In your own quote Rob, Thanks, yes, that's valid. |
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ninjatutle
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San Ramon, CA |  Doom
EVDO/HSPD > XOHM
Landline broadband > XOHM
Where does XOHM fit in? |
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EPS
join:2008-02-13
Hingham, MA
| Well theoretically XOHM should be better than EV-DO/HSDPA given equivalent coverage areas- it's the coverage areas that are the big issue right now.
I guess the idea is that it's supposed to be good enough compared to landline broadband that you could give up your landline and just rely on the wireless for all your internet needs, only relying on one connection?
Plus WiMax is supposed to have all sorts of nifty consumer electronics that will have the connection built in- of course, I don't know why this is considered a WiMax-specific thing... I mean, look at the Amazon Kindle, it's internet features are considered a great example of what people are looking for WiMax to do for consumer electronics, it does it already, and on the most "locked-down" network technology of all, CDMA EV-DO. |
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