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1 edit |  Modern broadband speeds from IBEC
»www.ibec.net/pdf/20081014.pdf
Price is right. Speed not so good. |
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Matt
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My guess is that IBM is supporting this so they can get a hold of whatever patents result from this. |
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keyboards
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| said by Matt  :My guess is that IBM is supporting this so they can get a hold of whatever patents result from this. If it's already being deployed, probably not any patents that don't already exist.
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Matt
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| said by keyboards :said by Matt :My guess is that IBM is supporting this so they can get a hold of whatever patents result from this. If it's already being deployed, probably not any patents that don't already exist. Actually, there could be a myriad of patents for avoiding interference to potentially develop. |
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mod_wastrel
join:2008-03-28 | Technology advances...
when it gets money for development.
Slow broadband is better than no broadband, as long as it's not too expensive. Co-ops would probably be way more interested in BPL anyway. Think of it: customer-owned ISPs. |
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RadioDoc
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Re: Modern broadband speeds from IBEC
Here's all you need to know:
"$70 million in loans from the government"
When free money is involved there will always be an organization spring up to squander it. |
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rmmoody
join:2001-02-15
Leawood, KS | reply to TKJunkMail
It is slow, but it beats dialup. And, in some remote rural locations it may be the only way some folks will ever get broadband. Too far for DSL, and no one else is going to drop coax or fiber in such sparse areas. |
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DrStrange
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| [Expletive], WHY WON'T IT STAY DEAD?!
Get out your silver bullets, your holy water, and your wooden stakes. BPL is back from the dead! Let's see if we can kill it permanently this time. Get ready to inundate the FCC with complaints if this gets even the tiniest amount of consideration.
I don't think there's a way to implement this technology without making large portions of the HF radio spectrum unusable. For every quick-fix that promises to reduce interference, there will be a slapdash installer who cut corners and increases interference. There are already enough 'dirty' power lines around without this junk generating its wide-band white noise. There are more practical ways to deliver broadband to customers who are currently not served. 'White-space' wireless comes to mind. What's that going to interfere with? Someones pirate SDTV station? Someone obviously paid a lobbyist a lot of money to resurrect this thing. May Barry Goldwater's ghost haunt them unceasingly and may President Obama raise their taxes! |
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Sammer
join:2005-12-22
Canonsburg, PA | reply to mod_wastrel
Re: Technology advances...
Co-ops are probably interested in finding a way to pay for a fiber backbone that connects their substations. |
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openbox9
join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA | reply to RadioDoc
Re: Modern broadband speeds from IBEC
A loan is not free money. Having said that, I do agree that governmental loans tend to increase the odds that the borrower may not be as critical on spending as appropriate. |
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bjbrock
join:2002-10-28
Mcalester, OK | reply to DrStrange
Re: [Expletive], WHY WON'T IT STAY DEAD?!
As many people and groups are protesting white-space wireless as BPL. BPL is here to stay simply because there is a market for it. As with anything else, if there is a demand someone will find a way to supply it.
LONG LIVE BPL!!! |
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jay_rm
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Re: Modern broadband speeds from IBEC
said by rmmoody :It is slow, but it beats dialup. And, in some remote rural locations it may be the only way some folks will ever get broadband. Too far for DSL, and no one else is going to drop coax or fiber in such sparse areas. That's what wireless is for...
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wonder if a power company could get into FTTH, they already own the poles so permitting would be minimal one would think. and of course operations cost would be lower since well atleast the electric costs for them would be well below market value.
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Re: [Expletive], WHY WON'T IT STAY DEAD?!
said by bjbrock : if there is a demand someone will find a way to supply it. And they'll fail. So long it's on THEIR money that they fail, I'm fine with it. It's their loss, not ours....
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Cheese
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Re: Modern broadband speeds from IBEC
said by jay_rm :said by rmmoody :It is slow, but it beats dialup. And, in some remote rural locations it may be the only way some folks will ever get broadband. Too far for DSL, and no one else is going to drop coax or fiber in such sparse areas. That's what wireless is for... And if wireless doesn't serve the area? |
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voipdabbler
join:2006-04-27
Kalispell, MT
| Don't expect to rural electric coops jumping on board.
Truthfully, rural telcoms are finally bringing dsl (albeit slow and some with incredibly low caps) into some rural areas. I don't see many rural electric cooperatives jumping onboard the BPL bandwagon, especially if the local telcom is offering DSL. (They have enough on their plates and in this era of tight financing, don't expect them to lean this far away from their basic mission.) As a nation, we can't afford to allow development of the infrastructure for the next generation of the Internet to only be developed in highly urban areas, especially if the government allows critical infrastructure (like telcoms) to be moved completely to the Net.. It's far too easy for all your eggs to be broken if in one basket only. Whether intentional acts by man or mother nature target urban regions, not developing a robust, nationwide infrastructure for the next iteration of the Internet, which will require greater broadband speeds, creates a national security risk. Population density already makes urban areas a high target for human attack. Having your critical infrastructure located only in them puts them that much higher on the target list and presents an opportunity for potential enemies to make our responders blind, deaf and dumb after an attack.. |
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james
join:2001-02-26
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Re: Modern broadband speeds from IBEC
said by Cheese :And if wireless doesn't serve the area? Then expand it to serve the area... You could expand the wireless coverage for a fraction of the cost of building a BPL network. |
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Cheese
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| said by james :said by Cheese :And if wireless doesn't serve the area? Then expand it to serve the area... You could expand the wireless coverage for a fraction of the cost of building a BPL network. And since you think they should expand, do you plan on helping them with the cost? |
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jmn1207
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| $9.6 Million? Pffttt!
This is just like me buying a lottery ticket. Much smaller when comparing the total revenue of IBM to this puny little venture. This is not very much money when looking at the big picture, and the payoff is potentially huge. But just like a lottery ticket, the chances are astronomically slim that it will return anything on the investment. |
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JinTX
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Re: Modern broadband speeds from IBEC
**IF** you have wireless coverage. I'm in rural Texas.
We are less than 2 miles from DSL, and they will not bring it any closer. Verizon wireless is ... OK - on a good day, I may hit up to 100K, which beats 48K. |
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