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Valencia, CA | Re: No, Just No. Don't forget data-mining.
There's a lot of interest in knowing what you watch, utility consumption, what's in your fridge, etc.
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Services:
$0.96 First lighting device
$0.20 Initial lighting managed device fee
$0.74 Additional lighting device
$0.10 Managed device fee
$1.06 First refrigeration device
$0.20 Initial refrigeration managed device fee
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Taxes and fees:
$3.62 Federal utility interconnection recovery fee
$1.24 Regulatory utility interconnection fund
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And just think of all the additional fees they'll be able to tack onto existing TVs! This sounds great! | |
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| | | | | Re: Oh goodie - imagine the bills! you forgot the per ip fees. | |
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| |  ropeguruPremium
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1 edit | Re: No, Just No. said by en102:Don't forget data-mining. There's a lot of interest in knowing what you watch, utility consumption, what's in your fridge, etc. And with the RFID technology out there being stuck to all kinds of products, primarily for inventory purposes when in the store, they could easily track most anything.
Before you know it, they will be putting nanoid's in food so they can track your digestive system and try to sell you Pepto-Bismol. | |
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| Third Party Assistance I think there is a market for assisting homeowners configure/optimize/secure communication devices. Networking has gotten much easier over the years but it is still a daunting process for most folks.
I'm not sure I'd want my ISP being the one managing my home network. The other big hurdle is heterogeneous network is difficult to manage and configure making it hard to create a business model that generates enough profit at a price point folks are willing to pay.
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4 edits | ISP Residential Gateway I think they are already headed towards these types of services. They already offer telephone (VOIP) and television. It's only natural that they will come up with more services...like controlling consumer's appliances. After all, a lot of ISPs are getting their foot in consumer's doors by giving customers free/required gateways. This is why I don't think they need metered billing to make more revenue. They just need more innovation...but that's for another thread.
Of course, eventually, privacy starts to come into question. CALEA states that any telephone switching equipment made after 1994 has to have a backdoor for wire tapping, it makes me wonder?!?!?!? 
I am glad my AT&T's Uverse & City WiFi will protect me from such evils!  | |
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1 edit | Manage WHAT? Perhaps, instead of looking for new sources of revenue, which no doubt will consume more of the already 'precious' bandwidth, which of course is forcing a change to metered billing, these companies ought to spend time looking for/investing in/creating better ways to manage their existing resources.
When they can manage their network 100% of the time with 100% uptime availability, I'll consider letting them in my house. Unlikely that I'll let them, but I'll consider it!
Imagine - you 'outsource' your connected home to /fill in the name of your provider here/ and entrust them to keep your house at a reasonable 64 degrees (no one home during the day), raising it to 68 at 5:30 before you get home at 5:45. Ooops - sorry - the local node is overloaded - we couldn't get that command through to your heating system.
Or....Ooops - we sent the incorrect command, and it turned on the air conditioning instead. What? You don't like coming home to a 50 degree indoor temperature??? We'll give you a credit on your next bill....
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| | Is this comcast at home plan for ipv6 $5 + per IP Is this comcast at home plan for ipv6 $5 + per IP.
No one will want to pay per IP for stuff like this. | |
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 fireflierCoffee. . .Need CoffeePremium
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Limbo | Meh. I don't need an ISP setting it up for me.
»www.omnipotencesoftware.com/
A few Insteon switches, some hardware from these guys »www.controlbyweb.com/ and I can login remotely (and securely) to turn my lights on/off, check for fire or flood alarms and YES, even open/close the garage doors.
Thanks but no thanks ISPs. I'll do it myself. And since I put it together I won't have to deal with some cluess level 1 tech trying to figure out why my gas fireplace keeps turning on and off.
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| | | Re: Meh. Looks like people are making smart alarm clocks
»sleep.fm - yet its through the web browser.... ok that's not going to work, please put it in my alarm clock, so i can wake up to my weather and stuff. | |
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| | Funny... ISPs can't even manage a dumb pipe... soon they're gonna manage a "smart home"? Yeah, riiiiiight. | |
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| | Refrigerator Spam! I can see it now, ISP's spamming my smart refrigerator. | |
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|  MrMoodyFree range slavePremium
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Smithfield, NC | Re: Refrigerator Spam! Yep, and it wouldn't be a nice, calm static ad like that either, it will blink, throb, gyrate and make annoying noises in a distracting way. | |
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|  koma3504AdvocatePremium
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North Richland Hills, TX | And your refridgerater gets a virus from the Add banner rotation being infected and it turns up the thermostat and all your food spoils. Cause you was on vacation and wasnt using the fridge. | |
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| DesdinovaPremium
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Gaithersburg, MD | Re: Would not trust an ISP to control my crapper. And if they DID control your crapper, you'd probably get a letter along the lines of "Your unfortunate bout with diarrhea last week exceeded your bandwidth limits. Any further flushes for the remainder of the month will be billed at $1 per ounce."  | |
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kudos:1 | where is my general purpose household robot? where is my general purpose household robot? | |
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|  vrpvrpPremium
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terra | Re: where is my general purpose household robot? said by patcat88:where is my general purpose household robot? .
... have you looked into your mirror lately ... 
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| Not ISP I Worry About. It is Obama, and the environmentalist . If we allow remote monitoring control. How long will it be before government mandates it under the guise of Global Warming. There was talk about having one thermostats controlled by the power company some time ago. They will be able to set minim and maximum temps. | |
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| fireflierCoffee. . .Need CoffeePremium
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Limbo | Re: Not ISP I Worry About. In various places, power companies can already do this--on a voluntary basis. They give the customer a credit each month for being part of that program. They're free to opt-out.
Some utilities have a similar program that controls water heaters instead of or in addition to HVAC at peak times.
It has nothing to do with environmentalists. It's purely economics and reducing demand during peak periods.
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1 edit | said by Scatcatpdx:It is Obama, and the environmentalist . If we allow remote monitoring control. How long will it be before government mandates it under the guise of Global Warming. There was talk about having one thermostats controlled by the power company some time ago. They will be able to set minim and maximum temps. And that is still a very real possibility down the road if the enviro-wackos(led by Al Gore) get the EPA to be even more intrusive than it is now.
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| | ropeguruPremium
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Mechanicsville, VA | Re: Not ISP I Worry About. Wasn't that already tried in CA where there was a push to have all new thermostats setup so that the power company could control them?? I heard rumblings about this trying to get passed but never heard the outcome. | |
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| | | | Enviro-wachos? Sounds like a comment from somebody with a carbon footprint the size of China, and for who it will require legislation to force you to stop leaving a path of scorched earth behind you everywhere you go.
If the enviro-slackers would just do their small part to be more environmentally friendly, government legislation wouldn't be required to make you do it. | |
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| | fiberguyMy views are my own.Premium
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kudos:3 | Re: Not ISP I Worry About. Not a conspiracy theorist, rather, just a kook.. there is a difference. | |
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| | Smart Home? Yeah, it can monitor the cat pan, but I'm not interested until it can scoop it, too. (My cats don't like the self-scooper)
As for the laundry - it would have to load, transfer to the drier, and fold the clothes.
Our fridge would drive it nuts!!
MS has been threatening this for years.
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| | ISP vs personal system I will never go with an ISP based smart home. If at all, it would be a personal system that is not monitored by any outsiders. | |
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|  Wills
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Port Charlotte, FL | Re: ISP vs personal system Wait til they start capping things.
Only allowed to turn your lights on 45 times a month... | |
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And just when I was warming up to the idea ....
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Would not trust an ISP to control my crapper.
