Metatron2008
join:2008-09-02
Stockbridge, GA | China has 1 billion people?
Kind of unfair comparing China to America considering america has what, 250 million? |
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58483323
Gurt me
join:2003-06-23
Normal, IL | Exactly.. China has over a billion more people than the U.S.... and they're only leading by a few million? |
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Duramax08
Oh rly?
join:2008-08-03
San Antonio, TX
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|  Dang the USA is way behind on broadband
I would like Broadband down my road pl0x. People up the road gets the basic AT&T internet plan. And cable or Time Warner never came down my road so at this moment I got nothing else then dial up. If they make broadband available almost anywhere, I think the number for the USA will sky rocket but then its all about the PROFITS!
I would like to see that dial up dies and everyone in the USA moves to broadband. I hope obama gots some internet plan up his sleeve 
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PolarBear
The bear formerly known as aaron8301
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join:2005-01-03
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| That's nothing.
400M is nothing, considering there are 6.7B people in the world, 4.7B of which are adults.
400M is only 5.9% of the worlds population, or 8.5% of the worlds adults.
Oh yeah, we have plenty of broadband penetration, Mr. Martin. What? You're being replaced? How sad.
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BK3
join:2001-04-10
Geneva, IL
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Re: China has 1 billion people?
said by Metatron2008  :Kind of unfair comparing China to America considering america has what, 250 million? U.S. population is over 305 Million:
»www.census.gov/population/www/po···kus.html
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jazzy_
join:2004-01-27
Charleston, SC | reply to Metatron2008
Agreed, when comparing % penetration is what really matters. |
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damox
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join:2002-01-07
Olympia, WA
2 edits | reply to BK3
Nit picking! So we have a few more people than stated. China's population is still more than 1 billion than we have. |
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damox
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Olympia, WA
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Re: That's nothing.
That was exactly my thought. However, considering that the majority of those 6.7 billion people are poorer than we are here in the US, it's a no brainer as to why they don't have broadband.
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BK3
join:2001-04-10
Geneva, IL
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Re: China has 1 billion people?
said by damox :Nit picking! So we have a few more people than stated. China's population is still more than 1 billion than we have. Chinese population - 1.3 billion:
»www.chinability.com/China%20popu···lock.htm
If you are going to use numbers to back up your opinion, IMHO it is best to be as accurate as possible, especially since it takes less than 20 seconds to be accurate.
Oh, well, just trying to be accurate.
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PolarBear
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Re: That's nothing.
said by damox : considering that the majority of those 6.7 billion people are poorer than we are here in the US, Very good point. |
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Lazlow
join:2006-08-07
Saint Louis, MO
1 edit | Users or lines?
Just curious if they are counting actual users or lines. For instance many homes(in the US) have one ISP connection but there may be four (or more) computers (users) using that line. Considering as a country we pretty much hate to share and the Chinese are used to sharing virtually everything, this could skew the numbers considerably.
Edit: I guess I should read the link before posting. They are counting lines. I think my point is still valid though. |
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LegoPower77
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join:2002-08-03
Arlington, VA
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Re: Dang the USA is way behind on broadband
Tsk Tsk! Don't you know, we have only two choices?
One is that eeevil businesses will supply a product because they can make profits; the other is where everyone works for the common good and does their best.
One exists, one doesn't. You choose.
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Fox McCloud
Crazy like a fox.
join:2006-07-23
·Embarq
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|  Connections or Users?
is this 400,000,000 connections, or 400,000,000 estimated users?
I could see 400,000,000 connections, but I think it'd be nearly impossible to estimate the total number of Internet users, since some homes may only have 1 user, and some homes may have 6 or more.
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ENYCECKK
join:2008-10-31
Brooklyn, NY | reply to 58483323
Re: China has 1 billion people?
Not every1 in China have internet ( hill and mountains )
and there is alot of poor people also ( farmers ) |
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openbox9
join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA
·AT&T Southeast
| reply to PolarBear
Re: That's nothing.
According to census statistics, the population of the US is ~305M people, with ~72% being over the age of 19. Using an estimate of 70M broadband suscribers and ~111M occupied housing units, it looks like the US is doing better with broadband penetration than you alluded to. If you're going to call out Martin, you should limit your usage of statistics to US data. |
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tschmidt
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join:2000-11-12
Milford, NH
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| As others have posted it is important not to confuse broadband connections with number of users. As openbox9 posted a better metric is broadband service as a percentage of households.
70 Million broadband connections for 110 million US households is not too shabby. That is poor solace to those who want broadband and cannot get it but much better stat then as a percentage of total US population. Our household is probably typical, we've had broadband connectivity for years shared by all four members.
Given how revolutionary Internet connectivity is this represents pretty rapid adoption. Most folks did not know what the Internet was a decade ago and world wide web which is what most people think of as the Internet, which it is not, is less then 20 years old.
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PolarBear
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| Very good point. I did not consider multiple users per household. In that case, penetration percentage IS higher than what I stated.
I still think it's ridiculously low, however, and I fail to understand why. I live in an extremely mountainous and rural area of Washington, and the WISP in our very large county covers over half the population. The only people it doesn't reach are the people who intentionally live in extremely remote areas in order to isolate themselves. If we can do that in this mountainous area, why not the rest of rural America?
And the Martin comment was simply to rant that he IS part of the problem, albiet only in the US. If I knew who or what was responsible for lack of broadband penetration in other countries, I'd bitch about them too! 
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Sammer
join:2005-12-22
Canonsburg, PA
| said by PolarBear :I still think it's ridiculously low, however, and I fail to understand why. I live in an extremely mountainous and rural area of Washington, and the WISP in our very large county covers over half the population. The only people it doesn't reach are the people who intentionally live in extremely remote areas in order to isolate themselves. If we can do that in this mountainous area, why not the rest of rural America? Those who use the excuse about how hard it is to provide rural broadband in such a large country never seem to mention that Alaska has one of the highest broadband penetration rates of the 50 states. |
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