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Comments on news posted 2008-11-20 09:23:40: Earlier this year, Bell Canada began throttling the traffic of wholesale competitors before delivering it to them, and without telling them. ..

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The Truth
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Anon

:(

Lame, another strike against consumers.

Matt3
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Jamestown, NC

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Backlash

The backlash on this is going to be HUGE. I'd hate to be a member of the CRTC for the next few weeks. It just proves that Ma Bell, even in another country, has the best lobbyists in the world and would rather litigate than innovate.
Shark_615
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Pickering, ON

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I have no words to describe how disappointed and disgusted I am at this decision. It just shows how spineless and useless the CRTC is... unbelievable...
45578933 (banned)
join:2008-10-13
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Discussion Thread.

Huge thread on this going on now.

»CRTC ruling coming Thursday Nov 20

beatsnpieces
join:2007-12-17

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Oh boy....

The feces are gonna hit the rotating ventilation appliance over this one...
88615298 (banned)
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Canada even more stupid than USA

And that's saying something.

blueeyesm
join:2003-09-05
Waterloo, ON

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Rogers

...now has full right to continue its throttling practices.

"What's good for the goose is good for the gander."

QuakeFrag
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NH

QuakeFrag

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stick it to the man

I was really hoping the CRTC would stick it to The Man. Maybe CRTC is part of The Man.

Guy Incognito
@teksavvy.com

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Welp, if that is how they want to play

Time to start a wireless mesh network.

Node 1 checking in.

Quake110
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Ottawa, ON

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Re: Canada even more stupid than USA

I have to agree, and I'm not proud of it. The Americans voted for change: Obama is a Tech Savvy president. While us... we voted a conservative government.

Hell, our politicians sucks now, we don't have leaders worth electing for. We need Trudeau or Jean-Chrétien back in Canada.

matradley
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Ottawa, ON

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Not too sure what to think...

Perhaps it is time to dissolve the CRTC as its usefulness has worn out.
gnumantsc
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Bell sucks

What doesn't really make sense here if they are worried about network congestion wouldn't they filter between the hours of 9-5 to ensure no issues? Why would they filter after work hours which is something that is really strange.

Funny how with the increased bandwidth Bell did not upgrade. Bell is 10 years behind.

canesfan2001
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Hialeah, FL

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Nice

Another victory for the real heroes, Big Business!

ShadPTR
join:2008-01-23
Whitby, ON

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Re: Not too sure what to think...

Wow, this is such a disgrace. I'm ashamed to be in this country. It's a sad state when this government is so blantant in such a decision. It goes to show you the majority of our citizens really do not know much about how they are abused when it comes to technology.

Robert
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Robert

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Surprised.

I really thought that the CRTC would vote against Bell Canada.

Totally sucks for Canadians.

en102
Canadian, eh?
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Valencia, CA

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Re: Not too sure what to think...

CRTC... bought and paid for by Bell/Rogers. Taxpayers be damned.

BellER
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Get Rid Of The CRTC

I think its time we get rid of the CRTC they are doing nothing good for the customers!

I think its time to start our own network and get rid of bell/rogers

SLD
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Re: Surprised.

Luckily for you, you live two countries south, just south of the USA, in Kendall.

Raptor
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Unbelievable....

This is wholeheartedly disgusting. I really thought that despite the typically inept CRTC, they'd rule in favour of the wholesalers.

knightmb
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Re: Backlash

Yeah, greed has no creed or face in this world, it exist everywhere. What no better example than in the face of overwhelming evidence that no problem exist, it is ruled that a problem "must" exist somewhere.
hottboiinnc4
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Re: Welp, if that is how they want to play

I suggested that long ago. But most of everyone shot it down. Good luck with that since people in Canada feel that they're owed unlimited and uncapped/throttled internet access. The US makes ISPs build out their network now if the Bell's don't want to play Canada should be the same.
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Re: Get Rid Of The CRTC

But as most people on here said when I suggested that--it costs toooo much to build your own network out. blah blah blah.

edit add: and the ISPs should be able to use the Bell network to deliver ISP services.
Pv8man
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Re: Welp, if that is how they want to play

That's the spirit, node 2 here,

and I volunteer my neighbors router because it's only WPA, lol

adisor19
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Raaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaage !!



I just wanna smash something right now !

I can't believe these morons ! WTH is wrong with this country ? How did these pple get to dictate garbage like this that effectively screwes us, the consumers over and over and OVER.

Adi
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this is absolutely disgusting!

I can't believe this.
This is not the way things are supposed to go.
What the hell's bell scared of, a little healthy compitition?
compitition never hurt anyone.
patcat88
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Re: Not too sure what to think...

said by matradley:

Perhaps it is time to dissolve the CRTC as its usefulness has worn out.
Its many levels above the FCC. Forcing American ILECs to lease out their DSLAM ports and transport DSL traffic to the ISP's datacenter is unheard of in the USA. Even RT customers can get competitor DSL. In the USA you have to install your own RT/DSLAM to get competitor DSL, no exceptions, and ISPs must figure out how to transport traffic from the CO to their data center.
djweis
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This isn't accurate, aside from the newer networks that Qwest and AT&T are putting in, independent ISP's can access customers anywhere the retail side can.

Transmaster
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Re: Canada even more stupid than USA

said by Quake110:

I have to agree, and I'm not proud of it. The Americans voted for change: Obama is a Tech Savvy president. While us... we voted a conservative government.
I would not blame this on your conservative government. You have an entrenched board which is quasi independent of the Your Government, much like our FCC. What I would look at instead is what kind of ties do the board members have with the industary they are supposed to regulate.

battleop
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Re: Backlash

"The backlash on this is going to be HUGE"

Probably not. Cowsumers don't understand why this is bad.

hurleyp
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Re: Surprised.

I'm not surprised at all. CRTC = Canadian Roadblock to Telecommunications Competition.
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