  MysticGogetaThe Robot DevilPremium
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join:2003-02-13
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1 edit | Re: Screwed world wide You mean in the U.K and U.S. Meanwhile in Japan & Korea their BB/infrastructure continues to improve exponentially leaving the U.S. so far behind that consumers think 2 Mbps is good. | |
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| | | | Re: Screwed world wide said by major marco:Meanwhile in Japan & Korea their BB/infrastructure continues to improve exponentially leaving the U.S. so far behind that consumers think 2 Mbps is good. I don't know about you, but this is not the type of thing that keeps me up at night.
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| | | | | Re: Screwed world wide said by burgermeister:said by major marco:Meanwhile in Japan & Korea their BB/infrastructure continues to improve exponentially leaving the U.S. so far behind that consumers think 2 Mbps is good. I don't know about you, but this is not the type of thing that keeps me up at night. Are you the type of person that thinks that potato chips and computer chips are the same thing?
The speed factor is not important what is important is the technological factor and that SHOULD keep you up all night. It means that we as a country are not investing in the future particularly in a technology that WE invented.
It is like the car business, we used to make cars that people wanted and now look at the situation that our 3 big car manufacturers are in. Toyota, Honda and others make much better cars than we do why? because we failed to adapt and invest in future technologies. I bet the 3 American manufacturers said in the 80's that "Fuel economy and quality are not the type of things that keep us up all night" | |
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1 edit | Re: Screwed world wide Are you the type of preson that thinks the faster you can download Buffy the Vampire Slayer episodes the stronger the economy is?
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| | | | | | | Re: Screwed world wide You're still missing the point. It's not about downloading 'Buffy'. It IS about the infrastructure that supports moving any data. That means business, entertainment, communications - ANYTHING.
If we let our network infrastructure lag behind we become less able to ADAPT to changes in paradigm and therefore less competitive in the world economy. | |
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| | | | | | | | Re: Screwed world wide said by degauss1:You're still missing the point. It's not about downloading 'Buffy'. It IS about the infrastructure that supports moving any data. That means business, entertainment, communications - ANYTHING. If we let our network infrastructure lag behind we become less able to ADAPT to changes in paradigm and therefore less competitive in the world economy. How am I missing the point? Explain to me how the average home user uses/needs all this bandwidth -- keeping in mind that business generally get and have available what they need.
Sending movies across the internet to our homes is not going to save the economy.
Here's an idea: let's do something stupid like, oh I don't know, invest in making something in this country? You know, manufacturing something.
Ultra high speed broadband to the home is a luxury.
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 wifi4milezBig Russ, 1918 to 2008. Rest in Peace
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New York, NY | I think its fairly clear quote:
a second Ofcom report indicates that 55% of UK users had no idea what their actual speed was
Hence, more than half the people in the UK dont care what their connection speed is. I know its hard to fathom (for many people on this site at least), however most people have a lot more on their minds than their download capacity.
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| | So what? Did anyone bother to ask a significant number of people if their HSI is "fast enough"?
All I can get (besides dial-up) where I live is cable. I don't _want_ to be paying what I'm paying for 6 or 8Mbps down. I'd be happy with a cheap 768k or 1.5M symmetrical DSL if I could get it. >:-P
Not everyone on the planet _needs_ massive speed from the outside world. Some of us are happy enough with "reasonably quick and always-on". Heck, some people are still happy enough with dial-up. 'Tis not a crime... | |
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| Re: So what? Indeed. I've been using 768/128 for several years now and it suits me just fine. For reading email, web sites, etc. it works great. Sure, I can't torrent the latest movies in 30 minutes, but like for the majority of interweb users, it just doesn't matter. 
Both of my sisters were paying the local cable co. $50 per month for their high speed internet. I convinced them to switch to 768/128 DSL a couple of years ago and bet them that they would NOT see any difference in "speed". Why? Because they just use email and surf the web. They were both amazed that they didn't perceive ANY difference in speed, even though they now had that "slow" DSL service. They were really happy to be saving $30 per month also. 
Other than heavy Bit Torrent use, or streaming HDTV, what do you do with 5mbs or faster connections? Perhaps if you're a video editor that needs to send files to and from clients, then a high speed pipe is required. But for the average user??? Other than the occasional big file download, I find the slower speed works just fine. Even then, I just let the big files download in the background or while I'm away from the computer.
What do the folks that have uber-pipes do with them? Heavy online gaming? Other things? I'm certainly curious! | |
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| | wifi4milezBig Russ, 1918 to 2008. Rest in Peace
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New York, NY | Re: So what? said by HarryH3:What do the folks that have uber-pipes do with them? Heavy online gaming? Other things? I'm certainly curious! Online gaming takes up very little bandwidth, you can easily do it on a 128k connection (its the latency that matters). While there certainly are some legitimate uses for high bandwidth connections, the majority of people on this website use them to steal copyrighted content.
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Haverstraw, NY | Re: So what? said by wifi4milez:said by HarryH3:What do the folks that have uber-pipes do with them? Heavy online gaming? Other things? I'm certainly curious! Online gaming takes up very little bandwidth, you can easily do it on a 128k connection (its the latency that matters). While there certainly are some legitimate uses for high bandwidth connections, the majority of people on this website use them to steal copyrighted content. How exactly did you determine that "the majority of people on this website use them to steal copyrighted content"?
Did you do a survey or talk to all 1,087,145 current login accounts here at DSLReports?
I think your characterization of the users here is a bit out of touch. I would also venture to say that over the course of the last year, OVERALL P2P usage in the Country has declined as a direct result of legitimate streaming becoming more available.
Read This:
»AT&T Backbone Sees 20% P2P Drop
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»gigaom.com/2008/08/02/warning-si···-hassle/
I would venture to say that a majority of DSLReports 1,087,145 users don't engage in illegal file sharing. | |
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New York, NY | Re: So what? said by IM1811:How exactly did you determine that "the majority of people on this website use them to steal copyrighted content"? Come on, dont try to fool yourself. | |
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| said by IM1811:How exactly did you determine that "the majority of people on this website use them to steal copyrighted content"? Come on. Talking about the legal uses of P2P here is like preaching about the virtues of virginity at a brothel.
Sure, there are legal uses out there, however, nobody is foolish enough to suggest the majority of the uses are completely legal. | |
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| Re: So what? said by Titus Pullo:You've forgotten streaming porn, and you can't leave that out of the equation; it's why the Internet was created ...  Sure, that accounts for some of it.. but what about the other 23 hours and 57 minutes in the day?  | |
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| Re: So what? said by espaeth:said by Titus Pullo:You've forgotten streaming porn, and you can't leave that out of the equation; it's why the Internet was created ... Sure, that accounts for some of it.. but what about the other 23 hours and 57 minutes in the day? Beat me by six minutes
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