pabster
join:2001-12-09
Waterloo, IA
 ·Mediacom
| 10GB? Damn They're Generous!
What a bargain! Twice the data of the other big boys! And we won't disconnect you, just throttle you back. Sounds like something for the advertising department to roll with. It's sad that the U.S. Wireless industry has gone downhill so far. All this cap and throttle nonsense... |
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Millenniumle
join:2007-11-11
Fredonia, NY
| Cricket Too
Cricket is doing the same "Unlimited" nonsense.
»Ingenious indeed
Not that anyone is going to be happy about caps, but jeesh, is lying about it the answer? Seems it would stand to piss off a lot of people. |
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jgkolt
Premium
join:2004-02-21
Lakewood, OH
clubs: | 2g/3g
I would like to mention the 2g edge network and 3g network are the same price. but i doubt an edge device would hit 10 gig often. |
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ScottMo
Premium,MVM
join:2000-12-15
Stony Brook, NY
| But its not limited.
If I read this right, once a user hits 10GB, they get throttled back. But they can still use the connection to continue passing data, albeit at a much slower rate. Ipso facto: unlimited. A "limited" plan would be "hit 10GB and we shut you off". A no point does T-Mobile shut you off.
It may not be your interpretation of what "unlimited" means, but its certain AN interpretation that holds up. |
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Pv8man
join:2008-07-24
Hammond, IN
| True scottmo, true
but 24.99 a month for 10GB sounds sorta like a rip off, but then again the new 3g networks are costly to install and operate so I guess the price is about right.
Besides, that's why the G1 has Wi-Fi
So you are not FORCED to use the network to use the phone.
yes, I'm looking at you Blackberry Storm |
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ninjatutle
Premium
join:2006-01-02
San Ramon, CA | reply to pabster
Re: 10GB? Damn They're Generous!
other carriers dont cap yo ask on handhelds.... |
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robbob340
K.U. Sweet 16
Premium
join:2001-02-15
Wichita, KS
| said by ninjatutle  :other carriers dont cap yo ask on handhelds.... They just charge dollars per meg...  |
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Blackberry Storm
| reply to Pv8man
Re: But its not limited.
said by Pv8man :yes, I'm looking at you Blackberry Storm Hello. |
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ninjatutle
Premium
join:2006-01-02
San Ramon, CA | reply to robbob340
Re: 10GB? Damn They're Generous!
Darn. How much capage is on the iphone? How much is it per mb? |
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AVonGauss
Premium,MVM
join:2007-11-01
Boynton Beach, FL
| reply to ScottMo
Re: But its not limited.
I haven't looked at the updated language, but if it is similar to the original wording then I believe time will prove you wrong on this one. The sad part is many different companies already learned the lesson, if you say unlimited then you had better mean unlimited - most chose simply to stop using that word. Degrading or otherwise impairing a customer from using an unlimited service will not go well. |
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beaups
join:2003-08-11
Hilliard, OH
| 10GB
What could you do to use up more than 10GB on the G1? seriously, what would you download? The TOS expressly prohibits tethering (regardless of whether TMO blocks it or not)...so what would once download to exceed the 10GB?
I have an iphone 3G and use it HEAVILY and went through only 340MB of cell data last month. I'm just trying to understand how people would use more than that in one day??? |
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SilverSurfer
join:2007-08-19
| reply to ScottMo
Re: But its not limited.
said by ScottMo : A "limited" plan would be "hit 10GB and we shut you off". A no point does T-Mobile shut you off. It may not be your interpretation of what "unlimited" means, but its certain AN interpretation that holds up. Holds up where exactly...in your head? In those who agree with you? Anyone who has the money/inclination can just as easily ennumerate a cause of action in a complaint and argue in front of a judge as to whether the intent of unlimited means what a reasonable person thinks it does vs legalese. Read some class action lawsuits sometimes. Doesn't matter what the company buries in legalese in its TOS/AUP, it's still up for a debate in front of a judge, particularly when concepts and definitions are played with fast & loose by corporate marketing departments. |
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funchords
Hello
Premium,MVM
join:2001-03-11
Washington, DC
 ·Verizon Online DSL
 ·Skype
| reply to Millenniumle
Re: Cricket Too
Cricket's ad running in Portland offends me as deceptive.
By the way, I noticed that when I visit Washington, the ads there are a lot less "bait-and-switch" than the ads that run outside of the DC broadcast area.
I'm thinking we should start YouTube-ing these local ads -- completely legal to do as long as you also provide commentary and critique about them -- and make some examples of the more egregious ones.
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jc100
join:2002-04-10
| reply to pabster
Re: 10GB? Damn They're Generous!
Well the plan is not limited. That's true. They just have tiers of usage. In all respect, you are unlimited at high speeds until you reach 10GB. After that, you are confined to 50 kilobits / 7KB/S for the remainder of your whoring. Sounds like customers still get their unlimited, just not as fast. I see no problem here.. They are not being deceptive, as long as they make clear this arrangement. |
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funchords
Hello
Premium,MVM
join:2001-03-11
Washington, DC
·Verizon Online DSL
·Skype
| Does this smell wrong?
Does anyone work in the mobile industry that can comment on this? |
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sturmvogel
Obama '08
join:2008-02-07
Houston, TX
| reply to beaups
Re: 10GB
said by beaups :What could you do to use up more than 10GB on the G1? seriously, what would you download? The TOS expressly prohibits tethering (regardless of whether TMO blocks it or not)...so what would once download to exceed the 10GB? I have an iphone 3G and use it HEAVILY and went through only 340MB of cell data last month. I'm just trying to understand how people would use more than that in one day??? You do some FTP downloads of videos to your iphone via cellular/Edge instead of using your computer, then easily transfer them via FTP/WiFi to your PC.
Not the most efficient usage, but possible. I did it and worked fine, was just curious to see if the FTP plug in for Safari worked well and it did.
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Obama '08. Will help resolve the terrible broadband issues we have that put us so far behind other countries. |
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biggbrother
Premium
join:2001-11-07
Providence, RI
| Should we Start Suing Chinese Buffets too?
I mean, when I got to a buffet that promotes itself as "all-you-can-eat", it better mean that I can stay there all day long, morning, noon, and night.. Heck maybe even a few days.
The truth is that these terms are simply used for "simplicity". To the average consumer, the term
"Unlimited" makes more sense than "3G Services up to 10GB of Downloads a Month".
And for 99% of subscribers, 10GB is really "unlimited" because they will never use that much. It's the people using their phones as modems and downloading movies, mp3s, and hi-res porn that are affected.
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"Doublethink means the power of holding two contradictory beliefs in one's mind simultaneously, and accepting both of them." -- George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four.
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SilverSurfer
join:2007-08-19
| said by biggbrother :I mean, when I got to a buffet that promotes itself as "all-you-can-eat", it better mean that I can stay there all day long, morning, noon, and night.. Heck maybe even a few days. Don't be obtuse, man. You're comparing apples to rocks. An all you can buffet is vastly different from a mobile phone plan that is advertised as unlimited but really isn't. It isn't reasonable for anyone to expect he can set up camp for a few days inside of a Chinese buffett. |
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AVonGauss
Premium,MVM
join:2007-11-01
Boynton Beach, FL | reply to SilverSurfer
Re: But its not limited.
Agreed - and many have already done just that with other companies. |
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beaups
join:2003-08-11
Hilliard, OH | reply to SilverSurfer
Re: Should we Start Suing Chinese Buffets too?
I think it's an excellent comparison. But seriously what application is going to cause a cell user to go over 10gb?? |
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