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Comments on news posted 2008-12-03 10:01:32: [att=1376134,r]Yesterday a Comcast insider informed us that Comcast, who implemented a 250GB monthly cap in October, will be offering users an online bandwidth usage tracking tool starting January 5. ..

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DarkLogix

join:2008-10-23
Baytown, TX
Finally

They should have put this out before issueing the CAPs


NOZIREV

join:2008-07-10
New Bedford, MA
·Comcast

Its not like they didnt have something for you to use while this was being developed, "Currently, the Comcast FAQ tells users to do a web search for bandwidth meters or use the meter included in the McAfee Security Suite the company gives out free to subscribers." please stop the crying...

mlabate

join:2007-09-03
Bangor, PA
reply to DarkLogix
One would think, but this is Comcast we are dealing with.

bugabuga

join:2004-06-10
Austin, TX

 I wonder how the count the traffic

I wonder if they will be counting all inbound traffic that gets delivered, or just passes their border router.
I.e. if you turn the modem off while someone keeps sending packets to "your" address, will that still have counter spinning or if the modem needs to be on, and if router manufacturers will start offering a power port to bring the cable modem up/down on demand
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bender
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reply to NOZIREV
Re: Finally

said by NOZIREV See Profile :

Its not like they didnt have something for you to use while this was being developed, "Currently, the Comcast FAQ tells users to do a web search for bandwidth meters or use the meter included in the McAfee Security Suite the company gives out free to subscribers." please stop the crying...
you are aware that this does not tell you about thirdparty devices that are using the internet. devices like xbox360's, wii, ps3, streaming music players, etc.


Matt
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reply to bugabuga
Re: I wonder how the count the traffic

said by bugabuga See Profile :

I wonder if they will be counting all inbound traffic that gets delivered, or just passes their border router.
I.e. if you turn the modem off while someone keeps sending packets to "your" address, will that still have counter spinning or if the modem needs to be on, and if router manufacturers will start offering a power port to bring the cable modem up/down on demand
If you turn your modem off, you no longer have an address. It's assigned to the device behind the modem, not the modem itself.

Ytsejamer1

join:2008-01-18
Somersworth, NH

I worry about Netlfix usage

I worry what this cap is going to do when I really have some time to kill with the holidays and watch a few movies from Netflix' streaming.

I'm glad Comcast has a higher cap than most who have implemented one, but it just seems like they want to limit your choice of viewable tv to their service (newsflash, I know).

But I'm glad there will be a meter available...it'll let me keep an eye on it.

AVonGauss
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join:2007-11-01
Boynton Beach, FL
First Thought...

I think I am reading too many boards, my first thought was is this the result of a leaky faucet at Comcast or is Comcast getting a bit more savvy in dealing with the community?

b10010011
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join:2004-09-07
Bellingham, WA
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reply to Ytsejamer1
Re: I worry about Netlfix usage

said by Ytsejamer1 See Profile :

I worry what this cap is going to do when I really have some time to kill with the holidays and watch a few movies from Netflix' streaming.
And you should, online streaming service such as Netflix, Veoh, and Amazon UnBox are in direct competition with Comcast's own On-Demand offerings.

This is the real reason these caps were put in place, not that "less than 1% of subscribers who are bandwidth hogs".

b10010011
Whats a Posting tag?

join:2004-09-07
Bellingham, WA
The latest DD-WRT has a bandwidth monitor

I looked at it a couple times, seems to work quite well counts everything going through your router in both directions. But of course you need to have a compatible router to use DD-WRT.

bugabuga

join:2004-06-10
Austin, TX
reply to Matt
Re: I wonder how the count the traffic

That's not necessarily true. Routing doesn't change. IP address linked to modem's MAC address doesn't change. Traffic may still come down to the node etc
Unlike dial-up, cable modems have quite consistent IP addresses

JSRoman
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join:2005-03-10
Callahan, FL

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reply to bender
Re: Finally

Where does it say that?

brianiscool

join:2000-08-16
Miami, FL
well

At least this is a good way to know if someone is stealing your internet service. lol


Matt
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reply to bugabuga
Re: I wonder how the count the traffic

said by bugabuga See Profile :

That's not necessarily true. Routing doesn't change. IP address linked to modem's MAC address doesn't change. Traffic may still come down to the node etc
Unlike dial-up, cable modems have quite consistent IP addresses
If you power your cable modem off, the CMTS will know there is not a link any longer and release the IP.


FicmanS
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reply to DarkLogix
Re: Finally

Agreed...


sapo
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Sacramento, CA

reply to Ytsejamer1
Re: I worry about Netlfix usage

Don't worry about it, I watched movies on Netflix and plenty of TV shows and I'm not even close to 250GB. The people who hit those caps are usually the ones that download everything just to have a huge archive for no reason. I am a heavy movie watcher using my Xbox 360 and 3 people who are very active with their PCs and unless you plan on watching movies almost your whole waking time every single day you should be fine. The thing that could screw you hard is if you watch HD content for hours everyday.

All in all, if you take only what you actually use you should be fine.


espaeth
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reply to Ytsejamer1
said by Ytsejamer1 See Profile :

I worry what this cap is going to do when I really have some time to kill with the holidays and watch a few movies from Netflix' streaming.
I've been playing around with NetFlix on-demand for the last couple days -- the average movie is only 900M - 1.5G.

You should be okay unless you plan to quit your job, quit interacting with the people in your life, stop sleeping, and spend hours in front of the TV.


jmn1207
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Reston, VA
·Verizon FIOS

reply to brianiscool
Re: well

said by brianiscool See Profile :

At least this is a good way to know if someone is stealing your internet service. lol
With these prices, the thief is selling you the internet service.


en102
Canadian, eh?

join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA
reply to Matt
Re: I wonder how the count the traffic

I would expect it to be tied into the MAC address of your cable modem.

Mr Matt

join:2008-01-29
Eustis, FL
·Comcast
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 ISP's their own worst enemy.

What a way to run a railroad. History repeats itself. In the mid 1800's the railroads got to big for their britches. The president of one of the railroads decided that he did not like a article printed by the newspaper, about the railroad. His solution was to refuse to carry any supplies to that newspaper. The president of that railroad regretted his action. As a result of his actions the government created the Interstate Commerce Commission to stop the B.S. The ICC regulations prohibited the railroads refusing to carry merchandise for one customer while carrying the same merchandise for another customer as long as the shipper paid the rates that were regulated by the ICC. Basically the ICC told the president of the railroad to F.O.

I think the bandwidth meter was a bad move for ISP's. Without a bandwidth meter an ISP can claim excessive usage without the customer having an effective way to determine what the ISP claimed was down/uploaded. Now the customer can ask the ISP to determine the source of the traffic if the customer claims they did not generate the traffic. Like a cellphone bill, the ISP's bandwidth meter should also provide a table showing the URL's and associated IP addresses, where traffic was downloaded from and uploaded to, during the period of time the traffic was measured. What a convenient way to find out if you are a victim of malware or a bionet.
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