Dogfather
Premium
join:2007-12-26
Laguna Hills, CA | And in a year they'll be wishing they hadn't
This is what happened in 1982, 1992 and even a bit in 2001...these types of companies (technical) dump good chunks of their skilled labor and then are completely screwed when the economy recovers. |
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ATT EMP
@bellsouth.com
| BS
What is great is that the majority of employees heard the news from the news, rather than the company. Then a few hours later an email was finally sent out. It shows these tools really care about the employees. Bring back Bellsouth! A concern for customers and employees will produce the best results, not micro management and nit picking! |
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chicago2008slow
@ameritech.net
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MagMan 
| concentrate on fiber/dslfootprint
Part of the decline is they never bothered to increase upper DSL tiers in existing markets. Here I am in a nice middle class neighborhood, yet the only speed I qualify for is 1.5mbps in Chicago in 2008! WTF!
They should stop wasting so much money on marketing/commercials, and instead focus on adding more remote terminals, and even laasing them out to CLECS at a cost beneficial to both parties.
I would rather have AT&T just build the internet highway and RTs (act like wholesalers), and just lease the lines to smaller companies that can serve residential and business better. They are not doing too good serving residential service directly. |
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pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
Premium
join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD
 ·Comcast
|  Don't Be Like GM
How can AT&T be expected to keep on workers for its business units that are generating less and less revenue? Fewer landlines means fewer people are needed to maintain them.
Do we really want to see AT&T follow GM's example and create a "jobs bank?"
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jtackett
join:2000-11-02
Atlanta, GA | Job banks already exist within AT&T.. |
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Austinloop
join:2001-08-19
Austin, TX | reply to ATT EMP
Re: BS
ATT EMP, if it is so horrible working for AT&T, micro managing and nit picking, then perhaps you should secure some else's job with AT&T and terminate your employment with that nasty organization. |
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pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
Premium
join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD
·Comcast
| reply to jtackett
Re: Don't Be Like GM
said by jtackett :Job banks already exist within AT&T.. Ugh. What level of idiocy exists in management to agree to such a thing?
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jc100
join:2002-04-10
1 edit | reply to Dogfather
Re: And in a year they'll be wishing they hadn't
Well 2001 was a recession but nothing compared to this one. I wouldn't remember the 1982 one, I was a baby heh. However, the data on 1982 stuck us at 10 percent unemployment. Will we get that high? It might very well happen if this trend continues. I am certain the november stats for unemployment are going to rise to prob 6.8 and maybe even 7. Will this continue to the 9 or 10 percent mark? Time tells. It all depends if things get sorted. While people say this is the worst since the great depression, this is probably not all that truthful. I mean we do have a credit crunch, housing crunch, financial crunch, and many factors at play. Unemployment wise though, 1982 saw 10 percent (as stated) and the Great Depression had 25 percent. So time tells where this one ranks in the scheme of things. |
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jc100
join:2002-04-10
| reply to Austinloop
Re: BS
Not that I work for ATT, but your statement assumes jobs grow on trees right now. Plenty of people hate their job but work it so they
A) Have an income
B) Roof over their head
C) Feed their family.
Your reply shows your age and lack of understanding of such adult decisions. Go elsewhere is an easier said than doen thing in this current job climate. |
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Smile__
Premium
join:2008-10-10
New Freedom, PA | reply to Austinloop
Austin, good jobs are hard to come by.. You sometimes just have to deal with these things even if you hate the job or company you have.. |
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Smile__
Premium
join:2008-10-10
New Freedom, PA
 ·XOHM WiMAX
| Clearwire Corp is Hiring!!!
»careerbuilder.com/Jobseeker/Jobs···s+%3E%3E |
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jester121
Premium
join:2003-08-09
Lake Zurich, IL | reply to ATT EMP
Re: BS
I'm thinking financial disclosure rules govern how news like this has to be disseminated. If they told employees first AT&T would have been targeted with shareholder lawsuits up one side and down the other. |
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jester121
Premium
join:2003-08-09
Lake Zurich, IL | reply to pnh102
Re: Don't Be Like GM
The level that has to deal with the unions. |
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snetwoody
Dilligaf..I Do
Premium
join:2002-01-12
Vernon Rockville, CT
clubs:
| They didn't even have the commercials!!!
Gees, they usually air the "at AT&T we have the best employees, they are he backbone of our company, and they are doing their best for YOU" commercials right before they reduce the workforce. Yet this would be contradictory to the recent employee bashing by the company done at the DPUC trials, stating that the employees are the reason for poor service records as of late(last eight years). The last time you had a problem with your phone, how long of a wait were you quoted?
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ElJay
join:2004-03-17
 ·Great Works Internet
1 edit | reply to pnh102
Re: Don't Be Like GM
The problem seems to be a focus on the short term instead of mid/long term. If I made every decision in my life based on the next quarter or year, my own personal outlook would be in quite lousy shape as well. GM did exactly this by failing to realize that big big big big vehicles and offering the same car with three or four different name tags may not be the diverse product line they think it is. GM thought they could tell people what they wanted to buy, when the people just decided to shop elsewhere instead. They seem to be catering to the specialty groups (i.e. Hummer, Cadillac) while their core product line generally goes to shit. |
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Rick
Premium,MVM
join:2001-02-06
Waterbury, CT
clubs: 
| Very Sad
especially at Christmas time for so many who are affected and their families.
As in the case of the automakers though..I don't think you can blame only the economy. For all intents and purposes..this companies core products are becoming functionally obsolete in that so many are moving away from dsl and landlines. Whether Uverse and fios become the lifelines that save them..only time will tell.
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ib50MbSoon
Formerly TwoKDialup
Premium
join:2002-06-07
Coloma, MI
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Re: And in a year they'll be wishing they hadn't
said by jc100 :However, the data on 1982 stuck us at 10 percent unemployment. Will we get that high? It might very well happen if this trend continues. True but back then we suffered with Jimmy Carter's 22% 'misery index'. 
»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misery_ind···onomics) |
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Titus Pullo
I came, I saw, I slept
join:2004-06-26 | Sounds like it's time
for an iBailout
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pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
Premium
join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD
·Comcast
| reply to jester121
Re: Don't Be Like GM
said by jester121 :The level that has to deal with the unions. You can have reasonable dealings with unions. However, a jobs bank and a lack of job flexibility will ultimately kill both the company and the union.
I still don't see these layoffs as being completely related to the economy. Landlines are simply going the way of the telegraph.
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jc100
join:2002-04-10
1 edit | reply to ib50MbSoon
Re: And in a year they'll be wishing they hadn't
Actually, Regan ran things in 1982. Wikipedia isn't a source. Regan took office in 1982 and if you so look at bls.gov, it goes to show that Reganomics were a failure, and all years under Regan saw MASSIVE unemployment.
January 20, 1977 – January 20, 1981 - Carter's term
January 20, 1981 – January 20, 1989 - Regan's term
Now go here and type in the years 1970-1989
»data.bls.gov/PDQ/servlet/SurveyOutputServlet
Now only will you see Carter inherited similar numbers when he took office, but they began to fall significantly during his administration. Towards the end, numbers resettled back at pre Carter figures. However, it wasn't until the second and third year of Regan Administration late 1982 / 1983 we saw double digits. Reganomics sucked. Star wars, and his whole plan was a failure. Carter is not to blame for this one. |
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