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Comments on news posted 2008-12-04 12:30:34: [user=Jason Levine] writes in: "On Tuesday, ISP Planet released their quarterly ISP subscriber counts. Most ISPs saw little to no growth from last quarter. The major exception to this within the top 5 ISPs was AOL. They fell from 8. ..
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  MattAll noise, no signal.Premium
join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC
kudos:12 |  AOL Loss = RoadRunner gains?
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| | | | Re: AOL Loss = RoadRunner gains? said by Matt:I wonder if the AOL losses are providing gains for Road Runner? Considering the only subscribers who use AOhell are the elderly and/or clueless and/or hillbillies out in the sticks, I'd say the piddling 7% drop was probably due to mortality rates. Of course, upon the death of Uncle Albert, AOhell will continue to bill his account no matter how many times the family attempts to stop service. | |
| | |  Smith6612Premium,MVM
join:2008-02-01
North Tonawanda, NY
kudos:21 | Re: AOL Loss = RoadRunner gains? That happened to a relative of mine. It took months of fighting with AOL until they stopped billing, at which time they had gotten Cable Internet. | |
| | |  CylonRedPremium,MVM
join:2000-07-06
Bloom County | Could be you are clueless as well when describing AOL users in any way. | |
| | |  HpowerRoflmao
join:2000-06-08
Glendale, CA | LOL! Too funny @ mortality rates!! America offline has to die!! | |
| | |  MysticGogetaThe Robot DevilPremium
join:2005-03-14
League City, TX | I'm sure they lie about their numbers. They count customers as cds sent to people. I figure they are running out of money as people are switching to cable and not paying their overpriced dial-up service, so you see the massive drop of "Customers" as cds not sent out.
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| | Odd figures From the chart...
Road Runner 8.4m 8.4%
Verizon 8.3m 8.7%
AOL 8.1m 8.9%
why is 8.1m 8.9%
and 8.4m only 8.4%? | |
| |  rcdaileyDragoonflyPremium
join:2005-03-29
Rialto, CA
1 edit | Re: Odd figures In the chart, I see that they show different sources for the data on market share: "Trending Schedules," "SEC 10-Q," and "Press Release." The SEC 10-Q should be more authoritative than a press release, but it may also reflect a different period of time and that could be a cause for the discrepancy in the values for market share. Also, only RoadRunner and AOL are shown with "Trending Schedules" as the source of data (because both come from Time Warner). All this makes me not very trustful of the information.
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| Hows this for a laugh? Comcast should pass AT&T next quarter to become the nation's largest broadband ISP.
So AT&T hows that working for ya? The market leader has faster speeds lower caps...oh and more market share..
Niiiiiceee I smell a CEO roast coming.
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| | rcdaileyDragoonflyPremium
join:2005-03-29
Rialto, CA | Re: Hows this for a laugh? Do you suppose that the feds will allow Comcast and Time Warner Cable to merge? Then those Comcast caps could be given to TWC customers, assuning that they are reaslistic and the infrastructure can support them. I remember when the territory I was in was owned by Comcast, and then was sold to Adelphia. When the opportunity to get it back from Adelphia came along, Comcast didn't bite.
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| | |  MrMasterjetsetterPremium
join:2000-12-16
St Thomas, VI
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| Re: Hows this for a laugh? said by rcdailey:Do you suppose that the feds will allow Comcast and Time Warner Cable to merge? Then those Comcast caps could be given to TWC customers, assuning that they are reaslistic and the infrastructure can support them. I remember when the territory I was in was owned by Comcast, and then was sold to Adelphia. When the opportunity to get it back from Adelphia came along, Comcast didn't bite. they wouldn't be allowed to merge. Even if the Republicans would still be in office Jan 20th that type of merger would not be allowed. | |
| | | | rcdaileyDragoonflyPremium
join:2005-03-29
Rialto, CA
1 edit | Re: Hows this for a laugh? That would not keep TWC from going bankrupt, so far as I know, because if the Republicans were still in office on January 21 or later, a bailout of TWC would not be likely.
Once TWC went bankrupt, the assets would be available to whatever entities were still around.
I have C-Span on now and Sen Bennett asked the CEOs of Chrysler and GM whether they would be willing to accept a requirement to merge their companies if that were included in a deal from Congress to give them money to stay alive. So, the idea of allowing a merger in another industry, even if it were non-competitive to some extent, isn't really out of the question, I think. Besides that, there's no real competition in cable due to the franchise arrangements. I can't get Comcast if I'm in TWC territory. | |
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|  baineschile2600 ways to livePremium
join:2008-05-10
Sterling Heights, MI | Higher caps maybe? | |
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 DHRacerFire Survivor
join:2000-10-10
Lake Arrowhead, CA | AOL cease to exist? If they lose 7% of their subscriber base every quarter, how long until they are gone?
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| |  ScottMoOnce in a LifetimePremium,MVM
join:2000-12-15
Stony Brook, NY
2 edits | Re: AOL cease to exist? None. While the percentage says relatively even, the absolute numbers are declining.
AOL's subscriber losses the past several quarters.
3Q06 -2,502,000 (14%)
4Q06 -2,015,000 (13.3%)
1Q07 -1,184,000 (9.0%)
2Q07 -1,071,000 (8.9%)
3Q07 -851,000 (7.8%)
4Q07 -740,000 (7.3%)
1Q08 -647,000 (6.9%)
2Q08 -604,000 (7.0%)
Still, that's an incredible subscriber loss. From 17,700,000 at June 30, 2006 to 8,086,000 two years later. | |
| | |  BF69Premium
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN | Re: AOL cease to exist? said by ScottMo:None. While the percentage says relatively even, the absolute numbers are declining. AOL's subscriber losses the past several quarters. 3Q06 -2,502,000 (14%) 4Q06 -2,015,000 (13.3%) 1Q07 -1,184,000 (9.0%) 2Q07 -1,071,000 (8.9%) 3Q07 -851,000 (7.8%) 4Q07 -740,000 (7.3%) 1Q08 -647,000 (6.9%) 2Q08 -604,000 (7.0%) Still, that's an incredible subscriber loss. From 17,700,000 at June 30, 2006 to 8,086,000 two years later. Just 6 years ago AOL had 26.7 million subscribers. | |
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| BF69Premium
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN | said by DHRacer:If they lose 7% of their subscriber base every quarter, how long until they are gone? It would take 7 more years for them to drop to 1 million subscribers. 12 years to drop to 250K, 15 years to drop to 100K. Of course that's assuming once they get that low AOL would care to still be an ISP. | |
| |  heat84Bit Torrent Apologist
join:2004-03-11
Fort Lauderdale, FL | said by DHRacer:If they lose 7% of their subscriber base every quarter, how long until they are gone? I thought they were gone.:shock: I mean its been ages since I've gotten an AOL CD in the mail.
Is it just a coincidence that AT&T and Comcast have nearly an identical market share and # of subscribers?:tinfoilhat: | |
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| | Sprint mobile broadband I wonder why Sprint mobile broadband card users (EVDO laptop cards) are not included. They have over 2 million subs. If Clearwire is included, why not EVDO users? | |
| | rcdaileyDragoonflyPremium
join:2005-03-29
Rialto, CA | Re: Sprint mobile broadband Maybe they thought Sprint would be bankrupt by the time the story came out? | |
| | | | said by xenophon:I wonder why Sprint mobile broadband card users (EVDO laptop cards) are not included. They have over 2 million subs. If Clearwire is included, why not EVDO users? The survey included no Mobile Wireless customers at all. Even the mobile wireless customers from Verizon & AT&T were not included. Clearwire was included for their FIXED wireless customers.
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| | | rcdaileyDragoonflyPremium
join:2005-03-29
Rialto, CA | Re: Sprint mobile broadband That's logical. | |
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| BF69Premium
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN | said by xenophon:I wonder why Sprint mobile broadband card users (EVDO laptop cards) are not included. They have over 2 million subs. If Clearwire is included, why not EVDO users? Look at the bottom
"24 Other U.S. ISPs 23.2 24.1% "
Not everyone reports their subscrinbers. Since Cox went private they don't. Notice they aren't listed but they should be in the top 5. | |
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 ctceoPremium
join:2001-04-26
South Bend, IN | Conversion Needed Could somebody make this into a chart of some sort. My head hurts from all the numbers.
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