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Comments on news posted 2008-12-09 17:06:25: Over the weekend, six of the UK's largest broadband ISPs began inadvertently filtering user access to Wikipedia for all users. ..

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But Amazon.com knuckled under and removed the pic

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The threat alone will accomplish the intent in most cases.

Of course, Wikipedia isn't off the hook yet. Any number of US prosecutors could decide to pursue this case anyway.

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Freedom of Speech or Shutup by force?

Next up... Dollar stores across this planet shut down due to selling statues of naked children .... Cherubs.

The debate is, It may be out there, but why should the ISP control what you see? The feds are always busy monitoring websites, as many sites owners have noticed in their log files.... If the Feds won't stop it,,,Making massive Black Lists also will stop legitimate artwork from a time when nudity was not shunned as EVIL.. And the government dropping off Pedophiles under bridges does not help either..


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The Streisand Effect again

Trying to censor something like this only led to it becoming more widespread. This was just like the attempts at censoring the AACS processing key (the one that began with 09-f9...)

The IWF even admitted themselves that they were wrong. It is not often that organizations which claim to control or regulate what happens online have a sudden outbreak of common sense.

As for Australia's impending content filtering, they are going to find it futile.
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Re: But Amazon.com knuckled under and removed the pic

Highly doubtful. This has been going around for the better part of 30 years now and it being a album cover, it is widely known. If both governments didn't do anything about it then, why expect them to do anything about it now?

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Next up... Dollar stores across this planet shut down due to selling statues of naked children .... Cherubs.
LMAO. Thx for reminding everyone of this conveniently overlooked fact. If you didn't, then I would have. The only objective any government could have for Internet censoring has nada to do with the standard but it's for the children bullshit war cry and everything to do with censorship for the sake of censorship itself, thereby proving that age old maxim of the more power government usurps for itself, the more it wants.


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Highly doubtful. This has been going around for the better part of 30 years now and it being a album cover, it is widely known. If both governments didn't do anything about it then, why expect them to do anything about it now?
But it hadn't reached widespread notice in the press like it has now. Some prosecutor looking to get re-elected in a conservative district could see this as an opportunity to garner votes - no matter what his chances of succeeding in court are.
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But it hadn't reached widespread notice in the press like it has now. Some prosecutor looking to get re-elected in a conservative district could see this as an opportunity to garner votes - no matter what his chances of succeeding in court are.
Eh, no. It's a shitty album cover buried in an encyclopedic entry. The only people interested in banning it are batshit insane.


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So what you're saying is someone might pull a Cuomo? Hmm....Yeah I can see that.

I always expect anything goes on what incumbents will do to get re-elected. It's like all common sense and decency goes out the window all for the sake of votes.

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Hmmm...

Reminds me of a cartoon from the National Lampoon: a guy walks into a porn store and asks the owner, "Got any pictures of twelve year-old girls in their underwear?" and the owner says, "Nah. Try the Sears catalog."


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Ah I see so this is what all the snobby internet control freak nonsense was about?

I wonder if any of those people running the ban everything dept have taken a stroll through the sistine chapel lately? or maybe just about any catholic church throughout europe and especially snobby ol england? All those naked people on the ceiling of the chapel painted by michelangelo been there for how many centuries now? LOL if anyone wanted to throw something new at the catholic church related to child abuse or whatver else you wanna call it, here it is courtesy of the stuck up and stuck on themselves euro internet monitoring dept.

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That's truly sad. Go after artists but not the priests who actually commit crimes!


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Reminds me of a cartoon from the National Lampoon: a guy walks into a porn store and asks the owner, "Got any pictures of twelve year-old girls in their underwear?" and the owner says, "Nah. Try the Sears catalog."
LMAO..

I was going to say something like.

News Flash... "The CEO of JCPenny has been arrested this morning under aligations of child pornography charges. Andrew Cuomo states that the JCPenny's catalog has evidence of children in their underwear in slightly suggestive poses.
News @ 10!!"


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Careful that photo right there just might make Cuomo a NY state senator.
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Don't laugh-this isn't funny!

Considering that Australia has already decided that drawings are also kiddie porn, this might truly BE considered child porn in Australia!

When I see these piss poor decisions, I begin to wonder WHO HAS the dirty minds to FIND drawings such as this to be pornography!

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Once again nobody mentions the cover of Nirvana's "Nevermind" album.


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Re: But Amazon.com knuckled under and removed the pic

said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

But it hadn't reached widespread notice in the press like it has now.
Obviously you haven't read the article. It was controversial when released and replacement covers were released. Furthermore it's one of the FEW examples of naked children that is unquestionably protected on artistic grounds.


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Re: Don't laugh-this isn't funny!

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Considering that Australia has already decided that drawings are also kiddie porn...
Actually, the judge decided that fictional characters are in fact "persons". I'd love to see their voters lists... maybe Mickey Mouse and Roger Rabbit will cast a vote.

Justice Adams ruled the word "person" included imaginary or fictional characters and that an unrealistic representation of a figure did not preclude that figure from being a "person".


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Re: But Amazon.com knuckled under and removed the pic

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said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

But it hadn't reached widespread notice in the press like it has now.
Obviously you haven't read the article. It was controversial when released and replacement covers were released. Furthermore it's one of the FEW examples of naked children that is unquestionably protected on artistic grounds.
I don't agree. And when it was released the anti-child porn laws were barely being considered. Anti-porn laws have chgd drastically since the original album was released.
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Re: Don't laugh-this isn't funny!

Didn't Donald Duck already get banned somewhere because he never wears pants?
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