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Comments on news posted 2008-12-11 16:38:08: Earlier this year, a routine New York State Public Service Commission inspection found a significant number of FiOS installs had not been grounded and/or bonded, though Verizon has told us nobody had been hurt. ..

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Dogfather
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What needs to be grounded?

I had FiOS and am confused as to what required grounding. You have non-conductive fiber coming in the from the street and my install looked like the ONT itself is grounded through the AC/DC adapter. So what needs to be grounded?


bobjohnson
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From what i see of the installs they still ground the ONT to the 6 wire the same as we would a ground block with cable... So far I have seen quite a few installs grounded to water pipes and a few not grounded at all.

Edit: To say that that there is a distance limitation also...


OSUGoose

join:2007-12-27
Columbus, OH
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reply to Dogfather
The metalic sheeting that protects the fiber drop needs to be bonded and grounded per NEC


jmn1207
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Reston, VA
Shocked!

What is most surprising is that there are customers switching back to cable after having FTTH.


Bonding

@rr.com

reply to Dogfather
Re: What needs to be grounded?

The AC/DC adapter ground doesn't count and all communication systems needed to be bonded to the common electrical ground to meet code requirements, simple as that.

Here's a general summary of what's required:
»www.mikeholt.com/mojonewsarchive···0701.htm


bobjohnson
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Re: Shocked!

said by jmn1207 See Profile :

What is most surprising is that there are customers switching back to cable after having FTTH.
I thought the same thing... 99.9% of the reinstalls that i have done were because of bad billing and even worse customer service... According to the customers, the speed isn't worth the hassle.


imwhite

@comcast.net

While its true...

All the companies have faulty grounding installations, usually by a rushed tech or even simply ignorance. I know cable still grounds to water taps in certain situations and 99% of them are not up to NEC spec. They are just picking on Verizon at the moment, if they inspected all the companies that harsh youd see plenty of whining about them too.


jmn1207
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Reston, VA
·Verizon FIOS

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Re: Shocked!

I have family in Orlando that have Bright House.(internet only) It really is a solid product for them, and in general, this company has a very good customer service rating. I can understand why some people would be completely irked by Verizon after coming from Bright House, with regards to billing issues and customer service.


PoloDude
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reply to OSUGoose
Re: What needs to be grounded?

There is NO metal in the drop. There are some drops that are buried that have a metal wire bonded to the side. This is used for tracing only and is not attached at either end.


cypherstream
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Cable would rather slam verizon than beat their offerings

Why do we constantly hear stories from these whining cable companies complaining about Verizon? Instead of spending time and money(Comcast) how about funnel that into their networks so they can actually produce a level of service that matches or exceeds Verizon.

Verizon = 100+ Linear HD channels plus HD-VOD. Multi Room DVR, Interactive Guide with web based DVR programming, movie art, games, widgets with news, stocks, traffic, weather... 50+ mbps internet speeds EASY. 100+ tested and is ready to go when the market's ready.

Cable = 10 - 60 Linear HD channels (very area dependent). Lack of consistent lineups. HD-VOD area dependant. No Multi Room DVR. Plain Guide with no frills. Maybe 20-30 mbps tops. Eventually it will get better, but boy would they rather talk the talk than walk the walk.


OSUGoose

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Re: What needs to be grounded?

Yes there is, i sugest u retrain ur self.


jmn1207
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·Verizon FIOS

reply to imwhite
Re: While its true...

said by imwhite :

All the companies have faulty grounding installations, usually by a rushed tech or even simply ignorance. I know cable still grounds to water taps in certain situations and 99% of them are not up to NEC spec. They are just picking on Verizon at the moment, if they inspected all the companies that harsh youd see plenty of whining about them too.
You are probably right, however, why has Verizon not responded in kind by reporting those shoddy cable installations that they are replacing? While this is certainly an attack on Verizon in an attempt to stall the spread of FiOS, there is some legitimate concern. The motive behind the reporting might not be as noble, but you can't knock Bright House because it benefits them directly.


charles38

@rr.com

fiber optics

the verizon fios is no different than copper being used from comcast and twc,so you need full power to get the cable running.for example,when you unscrew the copper cable line to the adapter in your home,go ahead and touch that copper cable line thats coming in your room and you will feel the power of cable.i would imagine its the sameway with fiostv with the fiber optics,so the power must need be grounded.but it sounds like to me that bright house are just whining and complaining trying to use the govt of fl to go after verizon because they offer better services than bright house.bright house knows,thats why they are using this cheap trick against verizon there chief competitor

DarkLogix

join:2008-10-23
Baytown, TX
reply to OSUGoose
Re: What needs to be grounded?

Prove it

its fiber thus non conductive


Dogfather
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reply to Bonding
My point is if it's fiber, what are you grounding? From some other posts, I gather there is a metal reenforcement in the fiber drop.

nitzan
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reply to jmn1207
Re: Shocked!

said by jmn1207 See Profile :

What is most surprising is that there are customers switching back to cable after having FTTH.
I was thinking the same thing. I am stuck with Comcrap now because I moved to non-FTTH territory, but would switch back to Fios in a heartbeat if I could.
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OSUGoose

join:2007-12-27
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Re: What needs to be grounded?

the fiber its self is. But the armored cable sheath that its enclosed, needs to be, unless they are refering to the fiber drops that are inside conduit, which i dont think had tracer wire sheathing or anything.

sneakaround

join:2001-06-19
Staten Island, NY

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reply to OSUGoose
no...... there is no metal in a fiber drop. some have a tracer attached to the side but there is no metal in the drop. I have cut and stripped many of them.


OSUGoose

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Columbus, OH
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is not what?


ATTek
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Pinon Hills, CA

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Re: While its true...

said by jmn1207 See Profile :

why has Verizon not responded in kind by reporting those shoddy cable installations that they are replacing?
Maybe for the same reason I don't: I wasn't aware that it's my job to snitch on the code violations of other companies. I don't squeal to code enforcement when customer's houses have code issues either. This is a cheap shot at VZ to try to slow whatever competition they may represent, nothing more. To say that any of these big corps do anything based on moral fiber is laughable.
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