pnh102
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Mount Airy, MD |  Fairness?
How is this stupid tax fair? |
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VegasMan
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Schaumburg, IL | Millions?
I didn't know Sacramento had millions of people?
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pokesph
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Sacramento, CA
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Thank God it only applies to the City proper.. Us folk out in the 'burbs lucked out. No extra Tax. |
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TKJunkMail
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Re: Fairness?
said by pnh102  :How is this stupid tax fair? The voters at least got to vote on it. Many times taxes are imposed without any voter involvement at all. Just because the voters are stupid doesn't make it unfair.
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PolarBear
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said by pnh102 :How is this stupid tax fair? As TK said, the voters asked for it. Now they're getting what they wanted. How is that NOT fair? |
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PolarBear
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said by TKJunkMail : Just because the voters are stupid doesn't make it unfair. BINGO! Very nice quote, man |
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fitbryan
join:2005-07-26
Santa Monica, CA | reply to pokesph
Re: SactoTax
idiots |
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cchhat01
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Elmhurst, NY
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Re: Fairness?
said by PolarBear :said by pnh102 :How is this stupid tax fair? As TK said, the voters asked for it. Now they're getting what they wanted. How is that NOT fair? these idiots need to understand the impact of their actions. go and educate your @sses for a change. I agree that taxation is helping fund the services but why tax instant messaging? |
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hurfy
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Spokane, WA
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"By a few, Fehr must mean the quickly growing multitudes who are finding landlines completely irrelevant."
Aren't most of those using cell which is already taxed and will now be taxed a little less to replace the landlines? Everyone i know without a landline has a cell not VOIP.
SMS is overpriced by %%%% anyway, what is a couple more %.
hmm, all the numbers i found for number of VOIP users is from 2005 when it was like 6% of people  |
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Mr Matt
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1 edit | Government, where dishonesty is their policy.
"See" whenever a dishonest government wants to trick their electorate into voting for some issue that will actually harm them, the government weasel words the matter on the ballot to trick the voters. As I see it the wording "Utility User Tax Reduction and Fairness Measure" was intentionally worded in a way to deceive the voters into thinking that the new tax would benefit them when in fact the new tax will significantly increase many customers cell phone bills. If the Sacramento Government would have called it the "The Utility, We Are Sticking It Up Your Ass Tax". I do not think it would have been voted for. |
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PolarBear
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Re: Fairness?
said by cchhat01 :these idiots need to understand the impact of their actions. Yes they do. And they will, when they get their phone bills.said by cchhat01 :I agree that taxation is helping fund the services but why tax instant messaging? Like I said, the people voted for it! I sure as hell wouldn't have. |
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quatrix
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Davie, FL
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said by cchhat01 :these idiots need to understand the impact of their actions. go and educate your @sses for a change. I agree that taxation is helping fund the services but why tax instant messaging? To clarify, I don't see anything about instant messaging (which typically means an Internet-based protocol like ICQ) except in the original BroadbandReports post. The tax is apparently expanded to include TEXT (SMS) messaging via cell phones. |
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BOHOOOOO
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Re: Millions?
Actually, the metro area of Sac has over 2 million people (2007 stats) |
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dvd536
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Phoenix, AZ | Double dipping
not bad enough providers double dip on SMS, now theres a tax on it??? |
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quatrix
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Davie, FL | reply to pokesph
Re: SactoTax
... which means you don't benefit from the .5% reduction in the city's cell and landline tax either. |
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unoriginal
join:2000-07-12
San Diego, CA | It also means that they weren't getting hit with Sacramento's city and landline tax to start with. |
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KrK
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Re: Fairness?
said by TKJunkMail :The voters at least got to vote on it. Many times taxes are imposed without any voter involvement at all. Just because the voters are stupid doesn't make it unfair. Here in Oklahoma, a bill was passed into law that made most tax increases, new taxes, etc have to be a ballot before the people.
It was sold as a way to make new taxes "more fair", "Respect the will of the majority", "Reign in pork-barrel spending", etc etc, and the like.
Boy, were they wrong. It's been a massive boon to politicians and budgets. When the politicians voted in taxes before, they were held in the hot seat and many feared voter backlash at the voting box.
With the new system, a vast majority of the time, *the new taxes are approved by the voters.*
It's just a matter of a sell-job, you see... put in certain hot-button issues, throw in the Police, Fire, Ambulance, Flood Control, Education, etc into the proposal and you'll get it passed by voters every time. Taxes to build factories and so on to give to large mega-corps for the promise of some jobs--- passed. Sports arenas, convention centers, what have you--- passed. Special new taxes to fix streets and bridges--- passed.... etc etc etc
We keep voting in bond issues, sales taxes, and other speciality taxes.... hell the voters even raise their own utility rates.
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rmdir
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Chicago, IL | ?
But if the vast majority of households will see a reduction, why enact the tax? |
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N10Cities
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Roland, OK
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Re: Fairness?
You'd like living in down in Eastern OK. That isn't the case down this way (used to live in Sequoyah Co.). Almost every tax vote is turned down. Officials scream bloody murder saying the police and schools will have to shut down...don't matter....still fails anyway...  |
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GrayDavis
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said by pnh102 :How is this stupid tax fair? Because its for the children. |
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