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Comments on news posted 2008-12-14 12:41:56: While FCC boss Kevin Martin's plan to offer free, 768kbps wireless broadband has gotten a ton of bubbly press coverage, we've repeatedly noted how the plan was never going to actually happen. ..

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yolarry

join:2007-12-29
Creston, WV
Assholes!

Now I going to stuck with hughesnet and dial up forever. :|

delmarvawifi

join:2008-07-15
Good news for all the mom and pop wireless providers.


Anonymous Coward

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All for the big telcos, put the screws to the people

George Bush can't leave fast enough.


JasonOD

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Great news........

Thanks to common sense and a reality check, the free market & taxpayers win. Nothing is really free.

k1ll3rdr4g0n

join:2005-03-19
Homer Glen, IL

Well, it could be worse

And it is.
Are we all stupid humans that don't want innovation?
The incumbents had their chance to speak and all they had were lies, so they can go pound sand. If only these idiots realized that this will happen eventually, they are only buying time by being stupid. And in the long run its going to hurt them even more! This is simply because by the time the plan is reintroduced again even better wireless technology will be on the market and they will be able to reach even more homes/businesses.

In the mean time cable companies rate hike and put in caps, while the rest of the world are at least 10x speeds we are.

I swear I really wonder about the intelligence of some of these CEOs. It seems as the more money you get paid, the lower your IQ drops.

And for those who think that this would violate the first amendment to be smut free, you are the dumbest porn surfer ever. If they don't require registration, it would be the best anonymous connection to the internet you can get. Isn't that what you want, to be able to post your opinion anonymously? Or would you rather have your porn? If all you want is porn, I'll burn you DVDs full next time if you leave this plan alone.


pnh102
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Unworkable?

How would anyone be able to cover the cost of such a freebie? Were the taxpayers going to be hit up for paying for this?
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Re: Assholes!

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Now I going to stuck with hughesnet and dial up forever. :|
You would have been in the other 5% anyway, and it would take 10 years for you to find that out.
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Re: All for the big telcos, put the screws to the people

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George Bush can't leave fast enough.
But these 2 killed it off - not Bush:

Sen. John Rockefeller, (D-W.Va.), and Rep. Henry Waxman, (D-Calif.)


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Re: Unworkable?

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How would anyone be able to cover the cost of such a freebie? Were the taxpayers going to be hit up for paying for this?
M2Z networks was going to get the spectrum at a big discount; use most of it to SELL service; and use 768 kbps of it for the free internet(but with lots of ads to sell).
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Re: All for the big telcos, put the screws to the people

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said by Anonymous Coward :

George Bush can't leave fast enough.
But these 2 killed it off - not Bush:

Sen. John Rockefeller, (D-W.Va.), and Rep. Henry Waxman, (D-Calif.)
T, you never get it , its the hatred that more important, thats a core liberal value, hate those who question us, even if democrats were the cause.
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DaveNJ
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reply to yolarry
Re: Assholes!

I dont know but i used bonded ISDN for years, might be faster then hughs

probboy

join:2008-01-10
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You would have been in the other 5% anyway, and it would take 10 years for you to find that out.
Thank you, at least one other person on this site is willing to admit that this plan was never going to be the panacea for unserved rural areas.

probboy

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Re: Unworkable?

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How would anyone be able to cover the cost of such a freebie?
They weren't; they would have never been able to build out the required infrastructure within the required timeframe on the business plan proposed.


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this plan was never going to be the panacea for unserved rural areas.
No, no plan that sets out to serve x% of the US ever will. Either it has to be 100% in a reasonable length of time or something specifically delegated to unserved rural areas only. Anything else will naturally concentrate on the cities, where a filtered, capped wireless service would get used for mobile internet, while rural homes wait for someday.
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probboy

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I think all these plans work around the proverbial 800 lb elephant in the room: either we, as a society, decide to provide high-speed internet access to rural areas or we decide we aren't going to. If we are going to provide access, let's build out a future-proof network like FTTP or FTTN (where possible) or fixed wireless solutions (where a wired approach doesn't work) using existing subsidies (like the universal service charge, for example). If we, as a society, decide not to build out rural networks, then let's eliminate the universal service fund.

Half-baked plans like M2Z's or Google's (& others') white space broadband are never going to provide access to unserved rural areas, regardless of what any CEO or press release says.

aaronkeown

join:2008-02-05
Jeffersonville, IN
Check your politics at the door please.

Hatred as a liberal value?Why do people always have to drag their own personnel politics into this.The only thing I hate is the fact that unfettered capitalism has led to our country's current economic condition.


NetAdmin
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join:2008-05-22

reply to Anonymous Coward
Re: All for the big telcos, put the screws to the people

said by Anonymous Coward :

George Bush can't leave fast enough.
Might make sense if GWB had something to do with them killing this plan. You might want to blame the lobbyists first.
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NetAdmin
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Re: Assholes!

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Thank you, at least one other person on this site is willing to admit that this plan was never going to be the panacea for unserved rural areas.
Probably not, but 95% of America is more than 95% of the population. More than 5% of the nation is technically uninhabited.
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MrMoody
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It is completely beyond doubt that they meant 95% of the population.


NetAdmin
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join:2008-05-22

Not completely beyond doubt... Coverage is sometimes express in terms of geographic area.

However, I found the FCC filing. They are talking population. My mistake.

quote:
Require the licensee to provide signal coverage and offer service to: 1) at least 50
percent of the total population of the nation within four years of commencement of
the license term and 2) at least 95 percent of the total population of the nation at the
end of the 10-year license term.

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