morbo
Complete Your Transaction
join:2002-01-22
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clubs: | boo to throttling but hurray for honesty
I'm not a fan of throttling, but i have to admit it is nice to at least see the details of throttling posted on their website instead of how it's usually done here in the U.S. |
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SLD
Premium
join:2002-04-17 | Throttled back to Comcast speed
Ha, throttled back to nearly the highest speed Comcast provides in the 4th largest city in the USA. |
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burner50
Pinlifter
Premium,VIP
join:2002-06-05
EN22wm | That throttling sounds like a good compromise, hint hint hint, American ISP's! |
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swhitney2003
I can't drive 55.
Premium
join:2003-06-13
NH
clubs:  | bundling make sense?
So 51 pounds for internet
or 35 + 11 = 46 pounds for internet and phone line.
Might as well get both, right? (Unless there are some hidden fees that just make it higher in the end) |
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swhitney2003
I can't drive 55.
Premium
join:2003-06-13
NH
clubs:
 ·Skype
 ·Verizon Wireless B..
 ·Comcast
| reply to burner50
Re: Throttled back to Comcast speed
Capping during prime time hours, who would've thought! I think it is a brilliant idea to do this. If they have problems with congestion, then it will be the worst during prime time. Limit any heavy user during that time should help the issue. Make the time slot 3pm to 10pm! Whatever it is, I can still schedule torrents to download/upload whenever I want. Hell, I typically don't do it during the middle of the day anyways because I want to use the web and not effect any other users on the internet connection.
BUT, where is the money in this? None for ISPs. Can't make a profit unless someone goes over some specified limit and pays overage charges. |
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popper99
@ntl.com
| VMs spees are infact 50Mbps/1.75Mbps upload
its NOT 50Mbps/2Mbps
it is infact 50Mbps/1.75Mbps upload ,barely enough to supply the return ACKs when you max out your 50Mit download tcp connections....
their webpage is saying 50Mbps/1.5 Mbps OC and thast also wrong, as you can read on the cable forum thread...
»www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12/33···ber.html |
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jmn1207
Premium
join:2000-07-19
Reston, VA
 ·Verizon FIOS
| reply to burner50
Re: Throttled back to Comcast speed
said by burner50  :That throttling sounds like a good compromise, hint hint hint, American ISP's! A good compromise only if this is not used to undermine infrastructure updates. If throttling is necessary, than something needs to be done to relieve the congestion besides reducing usability. This should be a temporary fix when things get crazy, but I don't think it should be a long-term solution to congested networks. I hope my FiOS connection is never throttled outside of standard networking protocols.
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Annoyed
| No.
They are not the first to trial or even rollout 50Mbit in the UK.
Ask4 are, with their 50Mbit symetrical. |
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swhitney2003
I can't drive 55.
Premium
join:2003-06-13
NH
clubs: | said by Annoyed :
They are not the first to trial or even rollout 50Mbit in the UK.
Ask4 are, with their 50Mbit symetrical.
Maybe first DOCSIS 3.0 50mbit ? |
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jmn1207
Premium
join:2000-07-19
Reston, VA
·Verizon FIOS
| said by swhitney2003 :said by Annoyed :
They are not the first to trial or even rollout 50Mbit in the UK.
Ask4 are, with their 50Mbit symetrical.
Maybe first DOCSIS 3.0 50mbit ? Probably refers to cable (coax) service in general. Symmetrical and DOCSIS of any type do not usually get along. That Ask4 50/50 symmetrical tier is for Fiber. FTTB= fiber to the bungalow  |
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Smith6612
Premium
join:2008-02-01
united state
1 edit | reply to morbo
Re: boo to throttling but hurray for honesty
But even that, if it is a nightly cap, it's certainly a lot better than what ISPs in the US who cap are going at with the monthly caps. |
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aSic
application specific
Premium
join:2001-05-17
Wakulla, FL
clubs: |  Heavy stuff...
"...when taken with an 11 pound phone line..."
Thats a rather big line to swallow...
*rimshot*
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Teamwork is a lot of people doing what I say. |
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keyboard5684
join:2001-08-01
Youngsville, PA
·Teliax VOIP
·WestPAnet Inc.
·WestPAnet Inc. CA..
| reply to popper99
Re: VMs spees are infact 50Mbps/1.75Mbps upload
Have you measured tcp acks on a 50 MBPS connection?
What about UDP? DNS, Video, Voice, all kinds of things use udp for download so I would still think it is fine. 1.5 is fine even for a 50 meg download at full speed using tcp.
tcp was never designed to be a high speed data transfer method anyway, it was designed for reliability of traffic delivery, not rate.
Everyone needs to complain and find fault in every company trying to do good for themselves and there customers. Every company needs to make money to provide service, or whats the point in giving you anything? This is a compromise, the customers will be happy, except maybe .0001% apparently. |
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Larry Tompson
@psu.edu
| 4pm-9pm...
is actually very reasonable, and the cut back speed is very generous too. Too bad that model of throttleing and capping isn't mirrored here with companies that cap. Don't get me wrong, I don't like caps one bit, but if it has to be done then that's the way to do it. |
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joker___
@verizon.net | reply to swhitney2003
Re: bundling make sense?
I am sure there would be dialtone fees, 911 fees (although in the UK i believe its 999) and i'm sure there would be others making the total sum higher than the stand-alone package. |
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Default_Uzer
join:2006-02-13
Springville, NY
clubs:
| Just wondering.
is anyone on this thread living in the UK? If so, will you plan on ordering the service? OR does anyone have any experience with Virgin? I have had their cell phones in the past, but I am in the boonies of western New York. The cell service was terrible, switched to Verizon. |
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otty
join:2008-10-24
Toronto, ON | Ya I had Virgin when I lived out there, and I was pissed about the throttling....What I wouldn't give to have that kind of throttling now that I'm back here in Canada. It is a reasonable compromise if there truly is a congestion problem. |
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italiansmoke
join:2005-07-21
Monroe, MI
| but...
like a poster said above, it should not be the be-all-end-all fix to congestion or P2P. It should just be a temporary fix to help people change their downloading habits, and help relieve the tension during peak times.
Caps & throttling suck any way you look at it. To compromise and accept throttling & caps is just going to make matters worse. We need to fight back, and not allow this kind of stuff if we want internet service to be how it's suppose to be. "You pay for this service, we give you our service. You get this service anytime, without interference & policing as long as you pay for it."
Or at least just stop the highest bandwidth hogs, or throttle them. Not ALL your customers. And certainly don't give me crap about congestion, and bandwidth limitations. That's why we pay them money. To use for these companies to upgrade their infrastructure and abilities. Not for this, that's for sure! |
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dvd536
as Mr. Pink as they come
Premium
join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ | 2mbps upload?
yawn. you don't need D3 to do that! |
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Piggie
I Actually use Windstream
Premium
join:2005-11-23
Orange Springs, FL
 ·HughesNet Satellit..
 ·Windstream
| reply to SLD
Re: Throttled back to Comcast speed
said by SLD :Ha, throttled back to nearly the highest speed Comcast provides in the 4th largest city in the USA. Yeah, they get throttle back for a total of 7 hours a day to over twice the maximum speed I can get here in the USofA.
It is good they upfront talk about it and that period is the highest use. Throttling only then makes sense.
But how long is one throttled? Just till 9pm the same night would be fair.
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